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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Out back] #2869850
08/05/19 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.

Personally I don't have any need for that. My concern is WHO will decide what I need and don't need.

When the government tells you you dont need your guns, you need your guns.

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869853
08/05/19 12:18 AM
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It don't matter it will never be enough for the Libs.

I can't recall any other shooting where a 100 round mag was used ?????

Beside I thought when they banned bump stock that's was gonna fix this

Just wait till some one using a ar with a binary trigger

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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869857
08/05/19 12:34 AM
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Some point some body gonna figure out body armor ain't that great when it comes to protecting against 223or5.56 ammo. Didn't help the shooter in ohio . If it had it would be on the ban block

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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: metalmuncher] #2869869
08/05/19 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by metalmuncher
Whether we need 100 round drum magazines or not has nothing to do with anything. What does matter is that the very rights that this country was founded on no longer look anything like it was spelled out to be. Liberal interpretation of the constitution and the bill of rights has played a huge part in leading us to where we are now as a country and as a society.

60 years ago mass shootings were virtually unheard of. Rape and murder stats were way lower than today. Kids for the most part were not taught that gay is ok. Most kids could recite the 23rd Psalm, the Lords Prayer, and knew the Golden rule. Most men worked to EARN a living. Few people divorced.

Today people think that the guns themselves are evil. We don't even blink an eye when the evening news tells about all of the rapes and murders. Many kids don't have a clue what John 3:16 says. Boy and girl scouts have gay troop leaders. About half the country is dependent on a handout from Uncle Sam. And the divorce rate is ridiculous.

What has changed?

I could go on forever but we have had leadership with no morals for to long. Bill Clinton, almost Hillary, both had the idea that anything is ok if it benefits them. Obama majored in Constitutional Law. Coincidence?

It's not just our politicians. We are to blame for letting it happen on the home front too.

I'm stopping right there.


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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869877
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I have no need for a100 round drum, I have no need for a bump stock, I have no need for a lot of things involving firearms but mostly I have no need of the Government telling me what I need or don't need. Whatever is available to LE and Military should be available to me.

Firearms are only second in importance to the Constitution for they are the peoples liberties teeth

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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Out back] #2869879
08/05/19 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.

Personally I don't have any need for that. My concern is WHO will decide what I need and don't need.

This. I don't want a 50 or 100 round magazine for my AR, but I don't want the government telling me I can't own one.

There are a lot of things that other people have which I consider useless, and I hope the government never outlaws them.


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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869887
08/05/19 05:37 AM
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If they wanna go on a hate fueled rampage, you’d think one of these nut jobs would shoot up a telemarketer trade show or something.

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869899
08/05/19 06:28 AM
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God forbid they start using the tactics of the jihadist. VBIED and suicide vest are far beyond the dangers that come from a firearm. No matter what, an innocent life lost is horrible no matter how it happens.
I think we should start looking at indicators that people are showing. More situational awareness to what people around you are saying and doing. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

In the end, I really only believe divine intervention can heal our land.

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: burbank] #2869904
08/05/19 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.


I totally agree.



I dont think yall understand why our forefathers included the 2nd amendment then


They have 100 round muskets?


Well you just march right down to the local PD and turn in everything you own that's not considered a musket. Some of the liberal Dems were saying the same crap about the 2nd applying to muskets the last time gun control was kicked up.


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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: burbank] #2869910
08/05/19 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.


I totally agree.



I dont think yall understand why our forefathers included the 2nd amendment then


They have 100 round muskets?


The muskets were the military weapons of the day were they not?

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869920
08/05/19 07:24 AM
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He was a democrat who supported Elizabeth Warren, socialism, and was an athiest. He's a product of an effed up agenda. Wouldn't have mattered of he would have had 500 round managazine or a 10 round magazine.

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: timbercruiser] #2869921
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.


I don't know why anyone needs a rifle that will kill a deer over 150 yards. I have never shot that farther than that.
I don't know why anyone needs over a 6x scope.
I don't know why anyone needs hollow point ammo.
I don't know why anyone needs more than 20 rounds of ammo.
I don't know why anyone needs more than 2 guns in their home.
I don't know why people even need hunting rifles, you can purchase meat at the store cheaper than hunting in most cases.
I don't know why............

You are running down a very, very slippery slope. That is why very smart people wrote the constitution, and didn't limit the 2nd amendment.


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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869925
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I guess you can tell who will stand with you from this thread.


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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: crenshawco] #2869928
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Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.


I totally agree.



I dont think yall understand why our forefathers included the 2nd amendment then


Agreed 100%. The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or even personal defense against an individual. It's entirely their to assure you can defend all of the other enumerated rights.

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: timbercruiser] #2869930
08/05/19 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.



just because you (personally) don't need it does not mean it should be illegal, and the more people that say they don't "need it" then the easier it will be for it to be illegal to own.

I need it because I want it...and by law I am allowed to own it. matter of fact, I might go buy one today...because with chit like this going on the days are numbered where you can get them.

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Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869940
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While we all agree that persons with true " mental illness" should not have access to guns - I have concerns about this same argument. Who gets to decide what constitutes "mental illness" ? If I gave you anti-depressants in the past after some traumatic events occurred in your life - does that preclude you ever owning a gun ? Deciding what constitutes mental illness and who gets to decide who is mentally ill is a very slippery slope !

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: pcoladoc] #2869949
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Originally Posted by pcoladoc
While we all agree that persons with true " mental illness" should not have access to guns - I have concerns about this same argument. Who gets to decide what constitutes "mental illness" ? If I gave you anti-depressants in the past after some traumatic events occurred in your life - does that preclude you ever owning a gun ? Deciding what constitutes mental illness and who gets to decide who is mentally ill is a very slippery slope !



Could also result in people not taking their meds so they can keep their guns. Or not getting the help they need for the same reason.

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Joe4majors] #2869960
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Originally Posted by Joe4majors
Originally Posted by pcoladoc
While we all agree that persons with true " mental illness" should not have access to guns - I have concerns about this same argument. Who gets to decide what constitutes "mental illness" ? If I gave you anti-depressants in the past after some traumatic events occurred in your life - does that preclude you ever owning a gun ? Deciding what constitutes mental illness and who gets to decide who is mentally ill is a very slippery slope !



Could also result in people not taking their meds so they can keep their guns. Or not getting the help they need for the same reason.



You are exactly right. Military guys are already afraid to be diagnosed with PTSD or seek the help they may need due to fear of losing their right to have guns !

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: burbank] #2869965
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Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by crenshawco
Originally Posted by burbank
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
I might piss some of ya'll off, but I don't see any reason a civilian would have a need for that.


I totally agree.



I dont think yall understand why our forefathers included the 2nd amendment then


They have 100 round muskets?



This is the most stupid argument that the libtards always make. You think the forefathers believed that muskets were the end of technological advancement in "arms"? There's a reason they didn't put "Right to bear muskets"...

Re: Conner betts weapon ( Dayton OH shooter) [Re: Southwood7] #2869969
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You don't "NEED" military style weapons. But when a government goes tyrannical that has the weapons that they told us we don't "NEED" as civilians you can bet yourass you will "NEED" them then. Like others have said it's a slippery slope when the government decides what you can and can't have to defend yourself against all enemies foreign and domestic.


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