I saw an absolute giant at Cahaba River several years ago. Crossed a road in front of me after dark. One of the two biggest bucks I have ever seen. Huge 10 or 12 with a long sticker off right g2. Never heard of anyone taking him. That one would probably go over 160 a giant. I later scouted the area but found nothing remarkable. Don't know where he came from but it is was near Helena.