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Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: juice] #2834586
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With the comments on it being very difficult on your marriage....I’ve been married almost 20 years and we dreaded building the house because we’ve heard how it really put a strain on some people. It was one of the easiest things we did honestly. I really left most of it up to her and put in my input where things I really wanted and let her make most of the decisions. The ONLY stipulation that I gave her was you HAVE to stay on budget. If it went out of budget I cleared it after a short discussion. We went over by $20k and I think we got a great house.

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DO NOT go el-cheapo on insulation , use quality exterior doors and windows. Put in 10' garage doors for each stall , not 9s or one big one for both stalls. Outa be against the law to put anything other than 10 footers in a garage.



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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Put in 10' garage doors for each stall , not 9s or one big one for both stalls. Outa be against the law to put anything other than 10 footers in a garage.


Amen. I actually ruled a house out when house hunting because it had narrow stalls, and a 20' bay length. Wouldn't even fit a full size truck, which is absolutely ridiculous.

Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: juice] #2834703
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You can work your way backwards to find out who does good work and who doesn't. Talk to a good painter , they'll tell you who the best trim and sheetrock guys are, sheet rock guys can tell ya who the good framers are, framers can tell ya who can lay a square foundation.

A really great painter make every ones work look good.



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Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: 2Dogs] #2834718
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sheet rock guys can tell ya who the good framers are

Only if you can speak Spanish.

Put your septic tank in the front yard.


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Originally Posted by hosscat

When I built mine I had 2 service legs run to the house. I can't remember if a standard leg is 150amps or 200, but either way I have 2. It made adding a shop and pool super easy.
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What he is saying is build a bigger service with two disconnects. It’s a very good suggestion.


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Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: juice] #2834729
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Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: 2Dogs] #2834751
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
DO NOT go el-cheapo on insulation , use quality exterior doors and windows. Put in 10' garage doors for each stall , not 9s or one big one for both stalls. Outa be against the law to put anything other than 10 footers in a garage.



Agreed.

I just skimmed thru the rest of the posts and didnt see mentioned but if its somewhere yall plan on being in for a long time make sure you have wide doorways and a well layed out master bath. Thats one thing I noticed with my grandparents and parents getting older is you may one day need to be wheel chair accessible to continue to live in the home. .

When I build mine I will be using pocket doors over regular doors in as many as i can.

A hidden book case door for "discreet" storage might be nice also. You can get them pre made online for $750ish. I think home depot offers them also.

Radiant floor heating will be a must have for me.

Another is I like it cold when I sleep so I will have a separate mini split AC just in the bedroom. No need to chill the whole house at night when I can just do the one room.

I will have at least one LP wall heater in a room for emergencies. After the snow storm of 93 and almost a week of no heat I wont be caught dependent on power to have heat. I will have at least the one room to stay warm in.

Extra outlets have already been mentioned but dont let them cheap out on bare minimum guage wiring.

Have cable/internet wires etc ran into walls ahead of time for a cleaner look.

Under cabinet led strip lighting in kitchen.

All corners of the house wired for outdoor security lighting boxes. If you do xmas lights under eave outlets.

Plenty of drain clean outs.



if I have a indoor water heater and dont go tankless I will have one of these auto leak detection shut offs. Seems I hear a lot of busted water heaters causing a lot of $$$ damage.

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Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: straycat] #2834754
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Originally Posted by straycat
Get everything in writing on scope, specifications and details and especially any changes.

Use change orders.

Get backup documents on draw requests. Go over this regularly.

Talk to the subs to make sure they are getting paid properly.

Discuss with builder the plans regarding water management: grade with positive slope, flashing details at floor line, windows, doors, penetrations, roof/wall intersections, siding terminations and sealants at dissimilar materials WELL before the framing is completed.

Water intrusion and water management is the #1 issue in the vast majority of construction projects. Also #1 most preventable problem with attention to detail.

If you are not in an area with a building inspection department, hire someone who can check for minimum code standards. The 2015 IRC is the state adopted building code that applies to all counties and municipalities that have not specifically adopted an IRC code (previous versions and/or their own ammendments) and have their own building inspectors.


Solid advice. Do not have any exterior door exposed directly to rain. It will lead to water issues down the road.
Place plenty of lighting in the attic.
Proper AC air vent placement is important for efficient cooling and lower power bills. Contractors often cut corners with these to run least amount of duct work possible. Ask contractor for layout and have someone that knows what to do review before installing.

Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: juice] #2834767
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Originally Posted by juice
I’ll address a few of the last posts at once.

As far as the financing goes, the loan is secured. Only draw taken this far was to pay off the existing loan I had on this property from the original purchase. The lender is aware of what I’m doing and actually allow limitless draws. When we begin taking draws it will be weekly.

As far as water intrusion those are all great points. In my line of work I see faulty construction a lot and water intrusion is a big one. We are building on a slab and we’ve set it up to be a block higher than needed at my request. The spot I’m building on is very flat so I requested that in order to allow surface water to run off easier. I’ll be inquiring about the other items mentioned

I pay the subs direct. Contractor give me the bills and I write the checks and he takes care of delivering payment. Contractor is working for a flat fee, there is no schedule laid out to when I’ll pay him. He told me he would let me know when he needed some payment but he would hold off until the end of possible to avoid extra interest on my part. His payment will remain the same regardless of cost of construction. I guess you would call this a cost plus deal. I don’t really have allowances per se, just estimated costs for each part of the build. I can choose to spend as much or as little as I want in any area.

A lot of good Info has been provided. Thanks again.

It sounds like you have made good decisions already.


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Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: k bush] #2834853
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This is the issue we went through. A significant remodel and she had a vision in her head that the original make-up and design of the home did not allow for without significantly exceeding our budget. I planned to stay out of the design as much as possible but because I was the point of contact for the GC I caught the hell. Lesson learned!
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I’m 34, but do plan on being here long term. I bought this 24 acres when I was 27 and have no plans on moving anywhere else. Way too much sweat equity in this place already.

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Depending on your age/how long you plan on living in the house, not a terrible idea to make the doorways wheelchair width.




Congratulations juice! Hope you and your family enjoy the property and the new house.

I was once a licensed home builder but only built the houses that I was going to live in. There is some great advice in this thread. My advice would be is to be patient with your wife during this process because nothing will wear on your nerves like building a house together. Good luck!👍


Try a major remodel on an older house. 3X the work, tear out-make it fit-replace.


Re: Home building do’s and donts [Re: juice] #2835413
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I know you think you will never leave, but respectfully, at 34, you do not know what life might hand you.

Whatever you build should be something that you can sell if needed, so make sure to build to code plus.

Some really good advice in this thread.

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If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.

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Thabks to everyone for the advice. I’m one step ahead on a lot of what’s been mentioned but have a bunch of new notes now.

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If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.


Why 2x6 walls?



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If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.


Why 2x6 walls?

It allows for more insulation, hence more efficient heating and cooling.

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Originally Posted by BibbHunter
If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.

All of these are very good ideas. Use good quality windows with low E glazing.

Another thing to look into is a cable or rod tie down system. This type system will tie the top plate of the walls to the concrete foundation and make the whole house more resistant in severe weather.


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Originally Posted by BibbHunter
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If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.


Why 2x6 walls?

It allows for more insulation, hence more efficient heating and cooling.


Always told it's not needed in this part of the country, especially on a brick. Don't know how long it would take to overcome cost of 6" lumber and insulation. I guess it causes issue setting doors and windows too.



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If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.


Why 2x6 walls?

It allows for more insulation, hence more efficient heating and cooling.


Always told it's not needed in this part of the country, especially on a brick. Don't know how long it would take to overcome cost of 6" lumber and insulation. I guess it causes issue setting doors and windows too.

A lot of houses are framed with 2x6 now. Some places have code that require it under their energy code. You can either use 2x6 and use traditional insulation or you can do 2x4 and use spray foam. You have to get a certain R factor. Also, any wall that supports 3 stories has to be 2x6.

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If I were building would do 2x6 exterior walls, light colored metal roof, variable speed heat pumps, spray foam insulation, tankless water heater. Cat6 run to both sides of the house for wifi router points, concrete reinforced safe room/tornado shelter.


Why 2x6 walls?

It allows for more insulation, hence more efficient heating and cooling.


Always told it's not needed in this part of the country, especially on a brick. Don't know how long it would take to overcome cost of 6" lumber and insulation. I guess it causes issue setting doors and windows too.


Not sure about you, but I run my AC or heat 90% of all days.
According to my research the additional cost is under $2000 and results in energy savings of up to 20% which can be recouped in as little as one year.

https://info.turnerandsonhomes.com/blog/cost-to-build-a-house-2x6-walls


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