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Re: Iran [Re: Spottedbass] #2828957
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Originally Posted by Spottedbass
This could be a perfect setup for Iran to attack our Naval ships while rescuing/protecting the damaged ships. I read somewhere that they have a surplus of missile boats that could potentially overwhelm one of our naval vessels by a swarm attack.


Not sure where you read that but Iran’s naval capabilities pales in comparison to ours. I mean that in sheer size of the fleet and combat power of assets versus assets.

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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by Spottedbass
This could be a perfect setup for Iran to attack our Naval ships while rescuing/protecting the damaged ships. I read somewhere that they have a surplus of missile boats that could potentially overwhelm one of our naval vessels by a swarm attack.


Not sure where you read that but Iran’s naval capabilities pales in comparison to ours. I mean that in sheer size of the fleet and combat power of assets versus assets.


I would venture to guess that we could completely obliterate Iran's entire navy with just a portion of one carrier group.


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Re: Iran [Re: hunterbuck] #2828961
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by Spottedbass
This could be a perfect setup for Iran to attack our Naval ships while rescuing/protecting the damaged ships. I read somewhere that they have a surplus of missile boats that could potentially overwhelm one of our naval vessels by a swarm attack.


Not sure where you read that but Iran’s naval capabilities pales in comparison to ours. I mean that in sheer size of the fleet and combat power of assets versus assets.


I would venture to guess that we could completely obliterate Iran's entire navy with just a portion of one carrier group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_ships_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran_Navy

Re: Iran [Re: NSDQ160] #2828962
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by Spottedbass
This could be a perfect setup for Iran to attack our Naval ships while rescuing/protecting the damaged ships. I read somewhere that they have a surplus of missile boats that could potentially overwhelm one of our naval vessels by a swarm attack.


Not sure where you read that but Iran’s naval capabilities pales in comparison to ours. I mean that in sheer size of the fleet and combat power of assets versus assets.


No doubt it pales in comparison. The article was saying that just the sheer number of vessels would overwhelm one of our ships defenses and they could do significant damage.

Stuff related to the small missile boats:

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-iran%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cmad-max%E2%80%9D-navy-missile-armed-motor-boats-60607

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-...hormuz-for-large-scale-swarming-exercise

https://www.businessinsider.com/ira...-gulf-that-could-hurt-the-us-navy-2018-8

Re: Iran [Re: bama1971] #2828963
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Originally Posted by bama1971
Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by Spottedbass
This could be a perfect setup for Iran to attack our Naval ships while rescuing/protecting the damaged ships. I read somewhere that they have a surplus of missile boats that could potentially overwhelm one of our naval vessels by a swarm attack.


Not sure where you read that but Iran’s naval capabilities pales in comparison to ours. I mean that in sheer size of the fleet and combat power of assets versus assets.


I would venture to guess that we could completely obliterate Iran's entire navy with just a portion of one carrier group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_ships_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran_Navy


It's the "proxy navy" that has the small swarms according the that 1st article I posted.

Look I'm not saying that any country has a Navy that could compete with ours on a conventional battle, but the whole swarm attack by small, fast, maneuverable boats does make you wonder if one of our big vessels has the defensive capabilities for that style of attack.

Re: Iran [Re: Skinny] #2828989
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ya'll ain't thinking. Carrier hundreds of miles away sends fighters equipped with missels=no Iranian navy after 10 minutes. gun


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Re: Iran [Re: Skinny] #2828995
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Seals prolly already got mines attached to the bottom of them, waiting for the signal.


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Re: Iran [Re: CatHeadBiscuit] #2829006
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Originally Posted by CatHeadBiscuit
Seals prolly already got mines attached to the bottom of them, waiting for the signal.


There’s no doubt about that.

Re: Iran [Re: CatHeadBiscuit] #2829018
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Originally Posted by CatHeadBiscuit
Seals prolly already got mines attached to the bottom of them, waiting for the signal.

It’s June... seals have prior obligations😂
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Re: Iran [Re: Skinny] #2829027
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If they’d eat some bacon they wouldn’t be so pissed off all the time


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Re: Iran [Re: Skinny] #2829037
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May not be Iran pulling these strings. May not even be Iran who did it. Trump is being baited to get into a war before the election.

Re: Iran [Re: BhamFred] #2829039
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
ya'll ain't thinking. Carrier hundreds of miles away sends fighters equipped with missels=no Iranian navy after 10 minutes. gun


Bingo Troy. They actually train for that exact "swarm" scenario down here once a year. Most of the inshore guides participate (govt pays them of course) but they get 40-50 private boats, they meet up at an assigned location where they are assigned groups, formations and target routes and they play the game in Choctawhatchee bay with the planes launching off of Eglin and mock targeting the boats. I've got a couple buddies that participate and they said they are generally notified within seconds of the exercise starting to shut off their motors and just drift because they are already "dead". 10 minutes is probably a big overstatement of the time it would take, based on what these guys say every year.

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Re: Iran [Re: Pocosin] #2829060
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Originally Posted by Pocosin
It is time for a proportional response.

We should have bombed them back to the stone age when we had all the equipment in Iraq.


We could not have possibly bombed Iran when we were in Iraq.
They could have and would have rained missiles on our troops and killed tens of thousands of them.


We should have stayed out of Iraq and instead used strategic bombing on Iran's nuclear facilities.
When they were vulnerable and could have been wiped out.
Without jeopardizing any of our military.
Now those nuclear enrichment and development sites are hardened and way underground.


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Re: Iran [Re: WmHunter] #2829061
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Pocosin
It is time for a proportional response.

We should have bombed them back to the stone age when we had all the equipment in Iraq.


We could not have possibly bombed Iran when we were in Iraq.
They could have and would have rained missiles on our troops and killed tens of thousands of them.


We should have stayed out of Iraq and instead used strategic bombing on Iran's nuclear facilities.
When they were vulnerable and could have been wiped out.
Without jeopardizing any of our military.
Now those nuclear enrichment and development sites are hardened and way underground.



Yep. I'm sure some will disagree, but Iran is not Iraq, if we were to got to War with Iran, it will be a War like few have seen


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Re: Iran [Re: ridgestalker] #2829062
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Couple of MOABs in the center of Tehran for starters.


Then you kill innocent people - and guess what?
>The Iranian people are mostly great and nice people who like America and Americans.

Their government is the enemy not them.
They don't like their Ayotollah government.
They tried to have a revolution and get rid of it some years back.

Go and bomb them and then they will all hate us and they will all be our enemy - all 82 Million of them.

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Scrubuck has a good point - can't trust anyone in reporting on this stuff.
Not even our own govt.
Israel would like us to do their dirty work.
So would the Saudis and other Gulf countries.

So would the damnable Neocon foreign policy click in the USA.


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Re: Iran [Re: Skinny] #2829079
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Mike Pompeo has publicly said that Iran is the culprit. Shitt bout to get interesting and fuel prices will go thru the roof.


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Re: Iran [Re: Skinny] #2829086
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So, a Norwegian and a Japanese vessel have been potentially attacked. Sounds like Norway & Japan should take care of matters if they think Iran is responsible. No need for the US to do anything as we aren't the world police.


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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
If they’d eat some bacon they wouldn’t be so pissed off all the time


Bentons bacon could bring world peace.

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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Couple of MOABs in the center of Tehran for starters.


Then you kill innocent people - and guess what?
>The Iranian people are mostly great and nice people who like America and Americans.

Their government is the enemy not them.
They don't like their Ayotollah government.
They tried to have a revolution and get rid of it some years back.

Go and bomb them and then they will all hate us and they will all be our enemy - all 82 Million of them.

********

Scrubuck has a good point - can't trust anyone in reporting on this stuff.
Not even our own govt.
Israel would like us to do their dirty work.
So would the Saudis and other Gulf countries.

So would the damnable Neocon foreign policy click in the USA.



I fear the majority of the Iranian people do not feel the way you believe they do.

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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Mike Pompeo has publicly said that Iran is the culprit. Shitt bout to get interesting and fuel prices will go thru the roof.



Yep


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