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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: hunterbuck] #2827557
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Nope, there are Pros that aren't getting paid because they don't win enough or place regularly. Nobody runs one because a tournament fisherman can't come off the water when its rough. Light boats are not made for rough water, they'd beat a guy to death.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: perchjerker] #2827567
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
Nope, there are Pros that aren't getting paid because they don't win enough or place regularly. Nobody runs one because a tournament fisherman can't come off the water when its rough. Light boats are not made for rough water, they'd beat a guy to death.


So, they're willing to just forfeit $5-10K if by chance they happen to win a tournament?

Nope...I don't believe you.

Sponsorship money is a big deal for professional bass fishermen. Allison just doesn't pay it.

If you haven't ridden in rough water in an Allison Bassport, you're simply speaking from a position of ignorance. Do an internet search, and see for yourself. I've ridden in two different ones, in rough water, and their superior design for handling rough water is second to none.


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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: hunterbuck] #2827572
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by perchjerker
Nope, there are Pros that aren't getting paid because they don't win enough or place regularly. Nobody runs one because a tournament fisherman can't come off the water when its rough. Light boats are not made for rough water, they'd beat a guy to death.


So, they're willing to just forfeit $5-10K if by chance they happen to win a tournament?

Nope...I don't believe you.

Sponsorship money is a big deal for professional bass fishermen. Allison just doesn't pay it.

If you haven't ridden in rough water in an Allison Bassport, you're simply speaking from a position of ignorance. Do an internet search, and see for yourself. I've ridden in two different ones, in rough water, and their superior design for handling rough water is second to none.


every allison ive seen is just ugly as all hell


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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827577
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Skeeter or Ranger with BassCat in 3rd.

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827585
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The best rough water hull is a Big-O, designed on an offshore hull for Lake Okeechobee. They are expensive too and you never see them on the Pro Trail. Allisons have never been anything but a speed boat. never a serious bassboat.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827589
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my buddy just got an older basscat sabre and im super impressed with the boat. the livewells are enormous


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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: perchjerker] #2827592
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
The best rough water hull is a Big-O, designed on an offshore hull for Lake Okeechobee. They are expensive too and you never see them on the Pro Trail. Allisons have never been anything but a speed boat. never a serious bassboat.


Grant Goldbeck used one in 2014 on the Bassmaster Elite series as a test...here are his comments....

"Grant Goldbeck. "...The Bassmaster Elites are a different bird. Its expensive really expensive that’s why pros get team boat deals...its a necessity...when I drove the project boat (Allison Bassport Pro Elite) in the 2014 Elites. It was to test its fuel efficiency, its rough water ride as we experience in the Elites and to expose its fish-a-bility. That boat was amazing. Allison didn't sponsor me it was a partnership by several of us. We ran that hull with only a Yamaha SHO 225...lol Elite pros are running 250's for a reason (speed) Yep they can stay up with the next guy. Most of the field was running 67 to 73 mph loaded two guys’ true speeds. Yes a few are running faster. But the truth of it is with a 4-stroke stock 225. We ran over 80 and were clearly the fastest Bassmaster Elite boat. And if we hit chop we out ran the field even more. I have fished /ran/ teamed out many boats. I have fished Basscat (great boat, great family); I have fished Skeeter FXs (great boat good company). The Allison Bassport isn't for guys really wanting to go fast lol...they have much faster boats. This boat was to take competitive challenges pro anglers experience and make their lives easier like 10,000.00 in fuel costs. Now cut those costs in 1/2. I would say 5,000.00 are a huge savings per month (A four hundred dollar monthly payback? Someone check my math lol). Can you imagine a boat company giving you back each month 4 or 500.00. Fishability in the Bassport shocked me honestly, it stable (great for fishing heavy cover pitchn flipping) and when you hit the trolling more you were in and out twice as fast other boats. Burn down the bank in the Bassport was almost funny. I would pass guys ON THE TROLLING MOTOR covering water. There were several very well known pros (I wont mention names for many reasons) that asked me in person if Allison had a factory deal. I could have put 10 Elites in a Bassport the first month. I know Allison sells their boats and doesn't give away the farm or have a ton of profit. I know for a fact their boats are built better. The project is done. I decided to buy a Bassport with my own $$$. That should say enough. I own a Allison Boats because of what I experienced in one season on the Elites in an Allison Bassport." - Grant Goldbeck"

But hey...perchjerker knows it all....


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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827605
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It's clear you are a moron. One freaking guy and who is he? Nobody knows that goofball. Clearly he is a morons hero!


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: perchjerker] #2827606
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
It's clear you are a moron. One freaking guy and who is he? Nobody knows that goofball. Clearly he is a morons hero!


He is someone who makes money as a professional bass fisherman.

Who are you, and why is your opinion better than his? What are your career winnings? rofl

You can stop with the childish namecalling too. I'm not going to kiss your ass like some others do here. Not sure what you think gives you the right to be a complete ass to folks you disagree with.


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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: hunterbuck] #2827640
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by perchjerker
Nope, there are Pros that aren't getting paid because they don't win enough or place regularly. Nobody runs one because a tournament fisherman can't come off the water when its rough. Light boats are not made for rough water, they'd beat a guy to death.


So, they're willing to just forfeit $5-10K if by chance they happen to win a tournament?

Nope...I don't believe you.

Sponsorship money is a big deal for professional bass fishermen. Allison just doesn't pay it.

If you haven't ridden in rough water in an Allison Bassport, you're simply speaking from a position of ignorance. Do an internet search, and see for yourself. I've ridden in two different ones, in rough water, and their superior design for handling rough water is second to none.


There will never be a lot of these out there because they are made in limited numbers. It is really shocking to see the numbers of "die hard brand" guys that have switched over to Allison. There were several on the TX trail my son fished when he was still in high school. They are more popular than what most people give them credit for. Excellent boats.

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: hunterbuck] #2827686
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by BULLY
Yea only thing with ranger is they ain't got a crapper, cause if I paid 90-100k for a boat I'd have to live in it..


Allison Bassport is your huckleberry....

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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827694
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No one can argue that Allison has the fastest hull on a bass boat. Don't doubt they are very fishable at all.

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: Drake322] #2827701
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Originally Posted by Drake322



There will never be a lot of these out there because they are made in limited numbers. It is really shocking to see the numbers of "die hard brand" guys that have switched over to Allison. There were several on the TX trail my son fished when he was still in high school. They are more popular than what most people give them credit for. Excellent boats.


Correct. 100% hand built and hand laid. No chopper guns or other such that mass-producers use to cut corners. Fit and finish are second to none, as is their ability to hold up and hold value.


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Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827832
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Hell naw. Went and got a price on a new z20. Base price was 43k and change, so I thought well by the time I added what I wanted, won't be a whole lot more. 4 helixs 10, spot lock tm, 2 power poles, deck lighting. After that added and so called dealer fees shipping and bulldoodoo like that, 68k and change.. K

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827862
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Originally Posted by BULLY
Hell naw. Went and got a price on a new z20. Base price was 43k and change, so I thought well by the time I added what I wanted, won't be a whole lot more. 4 helixs 10, spot lock tm, 2 power poles, deck lighting. After that added and so called dealer fees shipping and bulldoodoo like that, 68k and change.. K


Cheaper than I figured it would be with all that

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: BULLY] #2827898
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Originally Posted by BULLY
Hell naw. Went and got a price on a new z20. Base price was 43k and change, so I thought well by the time I added what I wanted, won't be a whole lot more. 4 helixs 10, spot lock tm, 2 power poles, deck lighting. After that added and so called dealer fees shipping and bulldoodoo like that, 68k and change.. K

2 helix 12 will do the work of 4 helix 10s

Re: Buying a brand new boat [Re: top cat] #2827957
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This or a Skeeter.


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I thought bout 2 of the 12s but I was gonna run one mapping and the other structure scan cause my eyesight ain't like it used to be. And I got to thinking, i could wrap both truck and boat with a moving companys logo and such for jus a small fee. Lol.

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Originally Posted by BULLY
I thought bout 2 of the 12s but I was gonna run one mapping and the other structure scan cause my eyesight ain't like it used to be. And I got to thinking, i could wrap both truck and boat with a moving companys logo and such for jus a small fee. Lol.

I will gladly provide you logos like on my boat but I will never wrap another boat. When I wrapped mine other fishermen cut me off and acted pissed at me all the time. It really opened my eyes up to what pros have to deal with. I have a boat with 2 10s and a panoptics, spot lock, 1 power pole and Motivated Movers logos all can be yours for about $20,000 less than that Nitro you priced. It is also a proven fish catching machine with good mojo

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