My point on the doe thing is very simple, not always are the signs being read correctly and this is not directed at you Hogwild.

We had some very experienced hunters on the lease that were worried once about deer sightings. Said they weren't even coming to the fields. They said there was not much if any deer droppings on the field so the deer were not using the fields. The club paid $500-600 for exclusion cages to be put on the fields as many as 3 per field depending on size. Within 2 weeks it was proven that there were deer and they were using the fields rather heavily.

This past deer season, 2 guy were not seeing any deer period. These guys seen plenty of deer 2 years ago, killed several good bucks, seemed to see bucks and does on every trip. They were biatching this season about not seeing any. Well the guy that wasn't seeing anything 2 years ago seen plenty of deer this season on the same tract.

Kinda weird I guess.

Only by keeping records every year especially daily hunter observations, things might make sense of what's going on. Going off memory is not a good way to figure out what is going on. We kept records for over 10 years while I was in the club, not sure what they are doing now.

Back to the culls, really no such thing unless in a true TDM program.
Arguments for High grading a herd re on both sides or least last time I looked at it.

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