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Re: Keto diet [Re: FurFlyin] #2816149
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If you left the banana out, how many net grams of carbs would one shake have?


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I don't even really count carbs buddy but you can figure it or change it any way that helps you. I've not tested once or worried too much about eating anything as long as it had no sugar or grain or potatoes in it since last August and have lost a bit over 100 lbs since August.

The thing to take from this for me is a more palatable way to eat kale, which is one of the most nutrient foods on the planet.

I would tell you though that the way you do it seems to be working great for you. All I would caution about is to not get so caught up in all the details that it makes it seem too hard to live with every day.

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Fellers Mr Clark's plan will work. I spoke with him through pm in April. Since then I have lost almost 35 lbs. With no exercise. I get 10-15 more lbs off I am going to start exercising. Sweet tea is all that I miss and I crave it all the time I guess it's like crack Lol!!

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
I don't even really count carbs buddy but you can figure it or change it any way that helps you. I've not tested once or worried too much about eating anything as long as it had no sugar or grain or potatoes in it since last August and have lost a bit over 100 lbs since August.

The thing to take from this for me is a more palatable way to eat kale, which is one of the most nutrient foods on the planet.

I would tell you though that the way you do it seems to be working great for you. All I would caution about is to not get so caught up in all the details that it makes it seem too hard to live with every day.


Once I’ve lost another 10lbs or so, my plan is to transition to eating about like what you are describing.
I’m thinking that introducing fruit, juices, certain veggies that are higher carbs, etc back into my diet will make it a lot easier to maintain as a lifestyle. But planning to continue staying away from bread, sweets, and potatoes. May even work the occasional beer back into the mix. That’s been rough on this 100 degree day.

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Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
I don't even really count carbs buddy but you can figure it or change it any way that helps you. I've not tested once or worried too much about eating anything as long as it had no sugar or grain or potatoes in it since last August and have lost a bit over 100 lbs since August.

The thing to take from this for me is a more palatable way to eat kale, which is one of the most nutrient foods on the planet.

I would tell you though that the way you do it seems to be working great for you. All I would caution about is to not get so caught up in all the details that it makes it seem too hard to live with every day.


Once I’ve lost another 10lbs or so, my plan is to transition to eating about like what you are describing.
I’m thinking that introducing fruit, juices, certain veggies that are higher carbs, etc back into my diet will make it a lot easier to maintain as a lifestyle. But planning to continue staying away from bread, sweets, and potatoes. May even work the occasional beer back into the mix. That’s been rough on this 100 degree day.


Here's one more thing I need to say about that. I am still trying to lose weight so I am getting more refined as that amount that I need to lose gets smaller. Honestly, I'm at 200 now and I have a skinny buddy that's a good 6 inches shorter and I'm stronger than him and he only weighs 16 lbs more than me now. 20 more pounds should give me a 6 pack.

I don't drink fruit juice now at all and only eat fruit and berries once every week or couple weeks and I think it's just easier to not do perfect at all and still lose weight when you are 80 -100 over.

The one thing I would tell ya'll though is that I have always weighed every day. I know there will be fluctuations of up to 5 lbs day to day and even within the same day so I don't freak about 5,but I want to keep an eye to make sure I am not in a gaining trend. More weight for more than 3 days than my 4-6 day low and I change my diet. I've fasted an entire day and I've drank nothing but fiber for 2 days just to flush out. I can tell you that it will take about 3 days to get rid of a lot of meat even if you have had a bowel movement several times over that 3 days. I've felt full and only had water and fiber supplement for 2 days and thought I had to be clean until I saw what happened the 3rd day before I even ate. That was way back when I was experimenting more than now.

Quitting sugar has more benefits than losing weight. We all thought we were unhealthy because we were fat,but really we were fat because we were unhealthy. You won't lose the fat and feel good until you get healthy and a huge part of that is getting your insulin low. Just study up on what sugar and substances like sugar that trigger insulin do to us. It's not just gaining weight. That's just one symptom.

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I'm not really counting carbs, just trying to use a mental notebook to keep up with them. I'm trying to eat less than 30 grams per day. I may be, or may not be. I'll try the shake. I may have one for "supper."

I have a bi-annual doctors appointment coming up in about 5-6 weeks. I'm anxious to get my blood test results. I want to know what my hormone levels are doing. I know my Cortisol level has been high for a decade or longer. I'm also going to get him to check my Leptin level. I didn't know what that was until I started this diet and I'd bet money that most people that are more than 50 lbs overweight are Leptin resistant. That's the hormone that tells your body that you're full. Two months ago I could have eaten a 3000 calorie meal and would have been grabbing a snack 2-3 hours later because I felt hungry. I rarely feel hungry anymore. From what I've read it's supposed to take 6-8 weeks to reverse Leptin resistance and I'd say that's about right for me.

Last summer when it got hot I was working outside and got too hot. My BP spiked and stayed high. I had to get my BP meds increased. Well, this year when it got hot, my BP has spiked again. Not sure if it's from the high fat diet or the heat, but I'm keeping an eye on it. I'm interested to see what my Lipid profile looks like after being on this high fat diet. I hope it's not way out of whack.


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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
I'm not really counting carbs, just trying to use a mental notebook to keep up with them. I'm trying to eat less than 30 grams per day. I may be, or may not be. I'll try the shake. I may have one for "supper."

I have a bi-annual doctors appointment coming up in about 5-6 weeks. I'm anxious to get my blood test results. I want to know what my hormone levels are doing. I know my Cortisol level has been high for a decade or longer. I'm also going to get him to check my Leptin level. I didn't know what that was until I started this diet and I'd bet money that most people that are more than 50 lbs overweight are Leptin resistant. That's the hormone that tells your body that you're full. Two months ago I could have eaten a 3000 calorie meal and would have been grabbing a snack 2-3 hours later because I felt hungry. I rarely feel hungry anymore. From what I've read it's supposed to take 6-8 weeks to reverse Leptin resistance and I'd say that's about right for me.

Last summer when it got hot I was working outside and got too hot. My BP spiked and stayed high. I had to get my BP meds increased. Well, this year when it got hot, my BP has spiked again. Not sure if it's from the high fat diet or the heat, but I'm keeping an eye on it. I'm interested to see what my Lipid profile looks like after being on this high fat diet. I hope it's not way out of whack.


Insulin resistance from years of too much will cause high blood pressure. Yours should go down. Mine runs perfect now and I have quit 2 of my 3 prescriptions that weren't even controlling it very well before.

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Just keep thinking that what you wan to do it to eat totally healthy. That's why I don't eat low carb or keto. I don't want to think "diet" at all. I want to think "What would help my body the most?"

The goal isn't losing weight as fast as possible. I could have had it sucked out if that was the goal. Being fat is just one symptom of our problem. When we get healthy the fat will go. We don't want to be skinny and sick. That's why I gauge more on actual fat gone,like in my clothes sizes and how I feel. The biggest thing studying Keto has done for me is to learn of more healthy vegetable choices.

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I ‘m too lazy to do all that research but since I cut out most of the sugar, bread, and potatoes a month ago I lost 18lbs. I did however suspend said diet today when the homemade ice cream with strawberries in it came out. It was worth whatever it sets me back.


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I have cut out sugar, bread and most potatoes along with sodas, sweet tea and pretty much any beverage with sugar.

I'd love to drop 18-20-25 pounds as easily as you guys who do this. I think I'm going to have to start taking meth or heroin to lose weight.


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Re: Keto diet [Re: Clem] #2816620
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Originally Posted by Clem

I have cut out sugar, bread and most potatoes along with sodas, sweet tea and pretty much any beverage with sugar.

I'd love to drop 18-20-25 pounds as easily as you guys who do this. I think I'm going to have to start taking meth or heroin to lose weight.

Still don't work for us old dudes.
I've tried.


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I can eat like a rabbit for a week and lose 5 pounds.
Then relax and eat a damn sausage biscuit, and gain 8 phucking pounds.


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Originally Posted by Clem

I have cut out sugar, bread and most potatoes along with sodas, sweet tea and pretty much any beverage with sugar.

I'd love to drop 18-20-25 pounds as easily as you guys who do this. I think I'm going to have to start taking meth or heroin to lose weight.


Look into the glycemic index for different foods. Lots of things act just like sugar in the body. There's a good chance that you still have lots of hidden sugars in your diet.

check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gALMXv6KqMo

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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Clem

I have cut out sugar, bread and most potatoes along with sodas, sweet tea and pretty much any beverage with sugar.

I'd love to drop 18-20-25 pounds as easily as you guys who do this. I think I'm going to have to start taking meth or heroin to lose weight.

Still don't work for us old dudes.
I've tried.

It does work. Don't eat like a rabbit. Eat like a lion.

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Clem, from mid February til April 3rd, I lost THREE pounds by cutting back and cutting obvious sugars. Started Keto on 4/4 and the results are posted here. You can lose it as easy as I did, or at least I think you can. I am still convinced there is at least one right way for everybody to eat, you just gotta find that one right way. For me it's ultra low carb and high fat.


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Cutting back don't work because if you still have sugar or other foods in your diet that cause an insulin reaction,you won't burn fat.

Most people diet long enough to lose some water weight,stop losing and get tired of starving. I've gained and lost thousands of pounds over my lifetime. I've basically been trying to lose weight since I was 10.

At 50 I weighed 330. Now at 51,I weigh 198 and am well on my way to being more fit than 90% of men my age with God's help.

I didn't know squat about keto. I just completely gave up all bread or breaded foods or anything with any kind of grain in it, sugar and potatoes. I was doing keto without knowing about it.

Since I started learning about keto I have adjusted to a healthier diet. In the beginning I was eating more what they call dirty keto. It works but I feel better and have a lot more energy eating better quality foods.

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4/4 I weighed 311
6/4 I weigh 277
34 lbs in two months
I feel better than I remember feeling in decades
Still not doing any organized exercise but I am working outside in the evenings until nearly dark every afternoon. I haven't felt like doing that in several years.

I have lost this much weight before and did so by working out with weights and doing cardio but I didn't have the energy that I do now.

I tried Keto ice cream yesterday. It was not good. I'll stick with slices of lemon added to water and a couple slices of refrigerated cantaloupe per day instead.

I haven't checked my blood ketone level in about a week. Last check was 2.2 mmol/L

I have eaten less fat in the past week. I have been more hungry but not craving anything bad, just more. I'm trying to eat only when hungry and still have problems not eating out of boredom but that's becoming a more conscious thought.


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Amazing brother - congratulations and stick with it - whatever you are doing is working!!!!


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Congrats! I’ve dropped from 210ish to 191 in 4 weeks. Haven’t noticed a significant increase in energy, but the diet is definitely getting easier to follow. Another week and I should be getting around my target weight. Shooting for 180-185 as a weight that I would like to maintain from now on.

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So are you trying to go into ketosis? Ketones in urine? As a father of a diabetic that is one thing that's a big no no. If we can't get rid of her ketones we are suppose to go to the emergency room.

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