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Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: thayerp81] #2876309
08/11/19 10:25 PM
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Prolly a little bit risky. Seeing as most black powder mills I seem to hear about blew up at one time or another. But like you said it’s just three attainable ingredients


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Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: Dublgrumpy] #2876839
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Originally Posted by Dublgrumpy
I'm not really into black powder guns but will ask you guys that are- any of you ever tried making your own black powder? I've never heard of anyone personally doing this but wonder if ya'll have. I use to wonder about the right recipe to make it & know the ingredients that go into it- as you folks do I'm sure. I have a book that gives the breakdown of the amounts of each 3 components but never tried it. Any thoughts?

Don’t get caught.

Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: thayerp81] #2876897
08/12/19 06:04 PM
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I made some years ago. Not that hard. It went bang in a flintlock. Why Hayzeus? Ain't no law against it is there? If there is where did you find it?


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Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: thayerp81] #2877148
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As far as I know it's legal to make your own black powder. Common sense would tell a fella to be beyond careful in both making & handling it. You have to handle it to load it in the gun, so just be as care ful in making it. It seems to me that anyone that can hanload their own ammo could certainly make black powder safely. Would add a little to the experience of shooting muzzleloaders if you also made your own powder.We use to have a 45 Cal. Muzzleloader- been many years since I've shot them. It was a lot of fun.

Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: thayerp81] #2877385
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From the ATF website:
Is black powder subject to regulation under Federal explosives laws?

Black powder is an explosive material for purposes of Federal explosives laws and regulations. However, the law exempts from regulation commercially manufactured black powder in quantities not exceeding 50 pounds (as well as percussion caps, safety and pyrotechnic fuses, quills, quick and slow matches, and friction primers) intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in antique firearms as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16) or in antique devices exempted from the term "destructive device" in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4). However, persons engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in black powder in any quantity must have a Federal explosives license, and comply with recordkeeping, storage and conduct of business requirements. [18 U.S.C. 841(c), 841(d), 845(a)(5); 27 CFR 555.11: definitions of "explosives" and "explosive materials", 555.141(b)]

Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: Hayzeus] #2877727
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Originally Posted by Hayzeus
From the ATF website:
Is black powder subject to regulation under Federal explosives laws?

Black powder is an explosive material for purposes of Federal explosives laws and regulations. However, the law exempts from regulation commercially manufactured black powder in quantities not exceeding 50 pounds (as well as percussion caps, safety and pyrotechnic fuses, quills, quick and slow matches, and friction primers) intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in antique firearms as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16) or in antique devices exempted from the term "destructive device" in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4). However, persons engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in black powder in any quantity must have a Federal explosives license, and comply with recordkeeping, storage and conduct of business requirements. [18 U.S.C. 841(c), 841(d), 845(a)(5); 27 CFR 555.11: definitions of "explosives" and "explosive materials", 555.141(b)]

This seems about par for the course. The gov't feels the need to insert itself into the equation.

Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: thayerp81] #2877778
08/13/19 07:33 PM
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I'm good then..no way I'd make 50 lbs.


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Re: local source for black powder in north Alabama? [Re: trlrdrdave] #2881783
08/18/19 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by trlrdrdave
I'm good then..no way I'd make 50 lbs.


That ATF reg that's posted says that us individuals can't make any. Period.


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