I hunt some very thick places. 3+ year old cutovers that adjoin very thick pine thickets that are laced with tons of undergrowth. If I shoot one that isn't leaking out both sides, if they make it into that mess, they're hard to find. I want a tough bullet that works in the worse case scenario. I want a bullet that punches through both sides, including bones, and leaves a good exit hole. Everyone has their own opinion. The Barnes bullets just work very well for where I hunt and what I do. I load all my own ammo and can load pretty much any bullet I want. For me, the Barnes is my choice. They've proven themselves time and again.