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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2628098
11/04/18 05:27 PM
11/04/18 05:27 PM
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Posts: 306 Chelsea, AL
Dean
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Chelsea, AL
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Throw n Mow 2018-19 has started out very successfully in Escambia county. Did not do anything to the fields over the summer, no spry or cutting. On October 20th we got a buggy with seed and fertilizer (wheat, oats, and rye). Pulled the buggy with the tractor over all the fields (about 8 acres in all). Put on the Bush Hog and cut everything. Went back with the ATV and spread the clover (crimson, arrowleaf, and a little ladino). Total work time about a day and half (had to watch some football). Oct. 20th Nov. 3rd All fields are looking great.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/04/18 09:28 PM
11/04/18 09:28 PM
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Posts: 23,577 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Dances With Weeds
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Awbarn, AL
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The fields at the new lease that I was worried about being too thick are looking outstanding. There’s a few areas here and there where it actually was a little too thick……..but for the most part its all doing great. I’ve actually got a little better soil to work with there than what’s in my field here at home. We hit most of it with some nitrogen this evening. We added some at planting but you could clearly see stripes where we’d missed some. I’ll take some pics here in the next couple weeks when I get back down there.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
[Re: CNC]
#2628385
11/04/18 09:32 PM
11/04/18 09:32 PM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
N. Bama
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Everybody always blames the seed.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2628582
11/05/18 08:22 AM
11/05/18 08:22 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,577 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Awbarn, AL
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Patience is gonna be key for a lot of folks with this method. It’s very unlikely that you’re gonna have an ideal situation on the first attempt for this method to thrive. You have to create those ideal conditions over the course of several rotations.
Last edited by CNC; 11/05/18 08:22 AM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2628596
11/05/18 08:35 AM
11/05/18 08:35 AM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Boo Boo Head
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Posts: 38,489
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If you're gonna invest the time and $$ to plant for goodness sake don't risk failure using cheap or free old seed. Timing is everything with growing any crop. And starting over means being late usually
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2628746
11/05/18 11:02 AM
11/05/18 11:02 AM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,911 huntin the big lease
Turkeymaster
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Posts: 1,911
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all of my fields are looking great, clover and brassicas are really starting to fill in after last weeks rain. here's a couple to look at that I forgot to post. these pics are from almost 2 weeks ago and they look wayyyyy better now than in these pictures. I had a bag of IC peas left over from summer planting so I just mixed them in with my fall seed as you can see in the bottom picture. They're all gone now. There has been a few weeds that my chemicals didn't completely kill but it's only in a couple of the fields. honestly, I don't see a difference from me spraying this year, to not spraying and just waiting for everything to die last year. basically the only thing that has come back are saw briars and bermuda grass. I did have one field that was all briars that I did T&M on, after spraying it, the ground underneath briars left alot of seed exposed after bushhogging and the birds and turkeys sure have worked on it. I over seeded it this weekend so maybe it will make a jump with all of the rain coming this week [/img] [/img] [/img]
"All is fair in love, War and Turkey Hunting"
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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11/05/18 03:00 PM
11/05/18 03:00 PM
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,501 Sumter County
sumpter_al
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,501
Sumter County
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We T&M this 10-13. It is wheat, elbon rye, oats, arrowleaf clover. The strip at the far end goes to a small lake and that area has turnips that are just breaking the ground. The only place we disked was the road (dark area at bottom of picture) due to loggers ruining the road. Had to disk it several times and cultipack to get it half way smooth. A skidder will do a lot of damage to a road but at least they stayed out of the food plots. Sorry picture is sideways. It wasnt when I sent it to tinypic.
I love my country, but don't trust my government.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2629439
11/05/18 08:32 PM
11/05/18 08:32 PM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 400 Grant
Waldo
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4 point
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Posts: 400
Grant
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Patience is gonna be key for a lot of folks with this method. It’s very unlikely that you’re gonna have an ideal situation on the first attempt for this method to thrive. You have to create those ideal conditions over the course of several rotations. It's the second year on two plots and they are definitely doing better than the field I planted for the first time. I just used the older seed trying to build some thatch for next year. Used WMS alabama blend on the other fields but I think my seed rate needs to be heavier. Time will tell I guess. I may have to hit them a third time in December with some fertilizer. Don't think I am doubting this process. Just venting a little and looking for some advice on where to go next. I am really hoping time and moisture are the ingredients that have been lacking.
Last edited by Waldo; 11/05/18 09:00 PM.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2630032
11/06/18 10:19 AM
11/06/18 10:19 AM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 656 SW Alabama
ALFisher
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4 point
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Posts: 656
SW Alabama
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CNC or whoever, I converted another field to T&M this year, hesitantly. I say that because one of mine last year didn't do so well. It mainly had dog fennel, ragweed, or whatever the weed in the picture is below, which is actually of me seeding and fertilizing before cutting. That stuff doesn't seem to create the greatest thatch because it seems to have more stems than leaves/cover. What is your experience with T&M in fields with this type of cover? I assume that next year, maybe I need to plant a millet or something more grass-like in the summer? Thanks.
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2630045
11/06/18 10:35 AM
11/06/18 10:35 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,577 Awbarn, AL
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Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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That looks like dog fennel to me.....Wait until the dog fennel gets about waist high next spring/early summer and then mow it really short. That should allow some other grasses to come in. You may want to spray it as well. It wouldn't be a bad idea to throw in some millet too. You're needing more "grass" so that you'll have a better hay crop for thatch.
Last edited by CNC; 11/06/18 10:38 AM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A
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#2630093
11/06/18 11:11 AM
11/06/18 11:11 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 23,577 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Hard to say for sure.....it looks pretty dang thick even though it is just dog fennel. If we get some timely rains and its stays moist...it may do well even without enough thatch.
We dont rent pigs
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