I actually had pretty good luck with my first go a T and M. I'm trying to plant these red dirt landings I have in some marshall rye and clover and the one where I did t&m looks the best. The sage grass and other crap I cut down did well holding all the seed in place so it could germinate. These spots will likely never make great food plots, but at least I know I can plant them in something like rye grass and give a little extra food for the deer.