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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BC] #2625018
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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by BradB

5.Since many of you are of the opinion they have the right to do anything they want with every inch of their land then why do I not have the same right.You boys have a problem with consistency. Explain to me your reasoning, assuming you actually have the capacity to reason.



I'll take a stab at it.

Your neighbor put a shooting house on his side of the line (which is his right).

He's guilty of nothing (if and until such time as he shoots across your property line).

Your perception is he's trying to hunt your property (which is an assumption that may or may not be true).

You put up a feeder on your side of the line (which is your right), except you stated that the intent was malicious and intended to hurt or disturb your neighbors hunting.

You hung up wind chimes and CD's down your line with the intent of disturbing the wildlife on your side and his.

Your intention was to disturb, or interfere with his hunting in that area because you don't utilize that area and don't care if it's disturbed.

That falls under the guidelines of hunter harassment.

Most people here think that harassing hunters is a dick move.

Therefore you got the negative response that you got.


Behavior such as this is why houses get burned down and tires get slashed and hunting gets a black eye. It's not really difficult to understand.



What if you went in there one morning to turkey hunt and your neighbor stood on his side of the line and blew an air horn every time you called or when the turkeys started gobbling? It is the same difference.

Drop the microphone...


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625024
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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: timbercruiser] #2625025
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Didn''t the "shooting house" look kinda stupid to anybody else besides me? It looks like 4 2x2's with some cull pieces of decking screwed to it. In other words it doesn't look real.

I've been thinking all along that it's a decoy, just put there for Brad's entertainment.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: Out back] #2625070
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At least BC is attempting to approach this rationally. But I am confused. Is it your belief that a) everyone should be able to do whatever they want with every inch of their property or b)everyone should be able to do whatever they want with every inch of their property, unless it causes a problem for their neighbor. One or the other.Also, adding intent adds a whole nother layer. There was never a piece of corn in that feeder, and I never intended to put any corn in it. It was simply me excercising my right of expression. In retrospect I should have painted a big bird finger on a piece of plywood and posted it on the fence.So according to your own reasoning we are all good here since I had no intent to corn, just as I am sure he had no intent to shoot..

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: Out back] #2625086
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
Didn''t the "shooting house" look kinda stupid to anybody else besides me? It looks like 4 2x2's with some cull pieces of decking screwed to it. In other words it doesn't look real.

I've been thinking all along that it's a decoy, just put there for Brad's entertainment.

It looks like the Taj Mahal compared to the POS shooting houses at our hunting club.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625089
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Originally Posted by BradB
At least BC is attempting to approach this rationally. But I am confused. Is it your belief that a) everyone should be able to do whatever they want with every inch of their property or b)everyone should be able to do whatever they want with every inch of their property, unless it causes a problem for their neighbor. One or the other.Also, adding intent adds a whole nother layer. There was never a piece of corn in that feeder, and I never intended to put any corn in it. It was simply me excercising my right of expression. In retrospect I should have painted a big bird finger on a piece of plywood and posted it on the fence.So according to your own reasoning we are all good here since I had no intent to corn, just as I am sure he had no intent to shoot..

To answer - a person should be able to do whatever they want to do on every inch of their property, within the limits of the law. What is the problem you are speaking of? Unless you actually observe this person doing something on your property, the problem is all in your head. Even with the side open to your property, he can watch the deer across the line as long as he does not shoot.

Your additional responses on this subject just enhance your standing as a turd.


Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625104
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Too much drama.My philosophy is that if you own the property, you should be able to do whatever you want on any inch of what you own and your neighbors should too. I'd have no issue with a neighbor putting a shooting house on their property on the line but to put it on the line with a window set up so he can watch out onto and possibly shoot my 7 acre sanctuary field would be unacceptable to me. Deer make people do stupid things. Remember the story about CAL's daughter sitting in the shooting house on his managed property and the jack leg neighbor selling hunts on the adjacent property shot a buck right under her nose in CAL's field while she was sitting there filming it. The temptation is too much for some. Rather than do the feeder deal, wind chimes and all that crap, if his house is only 10 ft off the line, get you five 10' 4x4 posts and 5 4x8 sheets of plywood. just put up a 20x8 plywood wall behind the house, at the same height as his window, right on your line and he will not be able to see or shoot your field. Problem solved. He hunts his property and you hunt yours.

Did you try to talk to him about it? That's the first thing that I would have done. Good fences make good neighbors but good relations between adjacent neighbors or clubs generally work even better. If he's an okay guy with good intentions, he would probably board up that window if you asked him about it and expressed your concern to him. I know I would. If he refuses to board it up, then you can assume that maybe his intentions might not be good and that he is wanting to watch your field and or possibly shoot across onto your property. At that point just install the cheap plywood wall on your side of the line behind his house and be done with it. You enjoy your property and let him enjoy his.

We've got a field on a corner of our property that is visible from a county maintained dirt road. We plant a 20 ft wide screen of Egyptian wheat along the road every year as a cover screen to eliminate the temptation of someone seeing something and being tempted to shoot off the road and onto our property in a direct line with our shooting house which is occupied on a pretty regular basis.

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625106
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We had a neighbor come to our front door once complaining about one of my ladders that was set up on our fence line facing down into a huge sage patch where deer liked to cross and bed. The stuff on his property was 15ft high and so thick you couldn't walk through it if you tried. I told him to go pound sand and never heard anything else from it.

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625111
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Abolt,

I’m convinced of neighbor problems regarless of scenerio. Bottom line question is “who’s property?”

For sure everytime I sit a property line area, I wear orange.

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625126
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So AU338 based on your OWN POST "To answer - a person should be able to do whatever they want to do on every inch of their property, within the limits of the law", there is absolutely no problem here.He has broken no laws and I have broken no laws, we are both doing what we want on every inch of our property.We agree and yet you call me a turd. It will be hard getting over that. I have noticed something over the years. Generally those who have limited reasoning and communication skills resort to name calling. Ask a Democrat a question they cannot rationally and factually answer within their belief system and see what happens. Racist, sexist, misogynist, asshole, turd.Sorta like the 20+ pages of this thread.

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625128
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The open window is completely irrelevant. The animals, on either side, don't belong to either of you.
By law those those animals belong to me, as much as you. In fact, you could stand on your side of the line and watch deer on my property all day, and is perfectly legit. And I wouldn't mind at all. I might even walk over and watch them with you. Until you shoot or walk over the line, you've done nothing wrong. So the neighbors have no reason or obligation to cover a window facing your property, that's a stupid and childish viewpoint.
However, we do have a law in Alabama which specifically states that intentionally causing noise or repeated activities with intent to harass a hunter or wildlife is illegal and that person can be charged with a misdemeanor. The reality here, like it or not, is that Brad is the admitted criminal and is neighbors have done absolutely nothing wrong, that we know of.

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625131
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Originally Posted by BradB
He has broken no laws and I have broken no laws, .

You admitted to hanging wind chimes and brightly colored items with intent to harass your neighbors and drive away deer. That's illegal in Alabama. So in fact you have broken the law.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625136
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Brad, your post are indeed full of adjectives and actions that show your contempt and disdain. First is saying their property is a “nasty mess”. For the love of God, its his property. Just by virtue of you posting the original post, you show your pride of a checkmate and hopes folk will back your play.

I’d say you are on the verge of a narcissistic fit.

If your five emotional responses and motivations stem from Envy, Anger, Fear, Inferiority, and Superiority then you might wanna seek help brother.

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625139
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Originally Posted by BradB
So AU338 based on your OWN POST "To answer - a person should be able to do whatever they want to do on every inch of their property, within the limits of the law", there is absolutely no problem here.He has broken no laws and I have broken no laws, we are both doing what we want on every inch of our property.We agree and yet you call me a turd. It will be hard getting over that. I have noticed something over the years. Generally those who have limited reasoning and communication skills resort to name calling. Ask a Democrat a question they cannot rationally and factually answer within their belief system and see what happens. Racist, sexist, misogynist, asshole, turd.Sorta like the 20+ pages of this thread.

If you have done some of the things you claim to have done - hanging wind chimes and other things in an attempt to disrupt their hunting, that may qualify as hunter harasment under the law. And I didn't see where your neighbors painted a picture of the finger on the shooting house, as you stated would be a good addition to your feeder. You have taken no steps to meet and talk with your neighbors and discuss this situation like MEN. You just assumed their intent and immediately responded like a douchbag and came on this forum and tried to show off. When you got called out by virtually everyone here, you acted like a spoiled brat in response.

Until if and when you KNOW your neighbors have done something illegal, pay them no mind. You and they will be better for it.


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Originally Posted by BC
Originally Posted by BradB

5.Since many of you are of the opinion they have the right to do anything they want with every inch of their land then why do I not have the same right.You boys have a problem with consistency. Explain to me your reasoning, assuming you actually have the capacity to reason.



I'll take a stab at it.

Your neighbor put a shooting house on his side of the line (which is his right).

He's guilty of nothing (if and until such time as he shoots across your property line).

Your perception is he's trying to hunt your property (which is an assumption that may or may not be true).

You put up a feeder on your side of the line (which is your right), except you stated that the intent was malicious and intended to hurt or disturb your neighbors hunting.

You hung up wind chimes and CD's down your line with the intent of disturbing the wildlife on your side and his.

Your intention was to disturb, or interfere with his hunting in that area because you don't utilize that area and don't care if it's disturbed.

That falls under the guidelines of hunter harassment.

Most people here think that harassing hunters is a dick move.

Therefore you got the negative response that you got.


Behavior such as this is why houses get burned down and tires get slashed and hunting gets a black eye. It's not really difficult to understand.



What if you went in there one morning to turkey hunt and your neighbor stood on his side of the line and blew an air horn every time you called or when the turkeys started gobbling? It is the same difference.



Im mean come on already BC!

WTH!???


The thread was all going along like a dang train wreck..and here you come along again with another well thought out and rational response!thumbup grin

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2625167
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Lol......... my bad.


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Brad, two “rights” don’t make it not wrong.

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Those deer will be used to those wind chimes in less than a week if there is something that they want to get to to eat in that area. Several years ago Farmer NW of Jefferson was getting serious crop damage from deer and set up an air cannon on his soybeans that would go off every 15 min. or 20 min. Scared the crap out of the deer for the first week or so. By the end of week two, you could sit in the back of the truck glassing from 700 yards away and those deer wouldnt even raise their heads when that cannon went off. They'd just keep right on eating.

I've had turkeys gobble at a slammed truck door, distant gunshots, police and fire sirens, you name it. Any sudden loud noise. That air horn BC was suggesting might just get one fired up and hammering. In which case, Brad would need to thank his neighbor.

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Well actually the chimes, cd's and flashing lights were really just bait.Not for the deer but the Aldeer LSCB crew. The deer around there have Cobras flying a few hundred feet over their head 24/7/365.It would not matter to them but got you boys pretty stirred up. As stated earlier the feeder has never had any corn in it. So, based on you boys own statements, since I have not actually committed hunter harassment its all good right?Just a couple of fellas legally doing what they want on every inch of their own land.

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Originally Posted by BradB
its all good right?Just a couple of fellas legally doing what they want on every inch of their own land.


Dang son, you are far gone

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