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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: GomerPyle]
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09/21/18 01:28 PM
09/21/18 01:28 PM
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gman
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Insurance no pay. They not stupid, they can check serial #s, etc. Don't do it. I remember reading on a forum a few years back where duck hunters were replacing the engine cowls with a lower HP cowl. (the way I recall it, with some engines there is no difference between, say, a 25hp and a 40 hp, other than the tuning, and the cowls were interchangeable. They got busted and were ticketed. Granted, this is me just repeating what was said, but TIFWIW They were probably ticketed because they were on wma's with hp restrictions. Same as was on Catoma in Cullman. Folks were running 15's and 18's with 9.9 stickers. I think the only issues with running over hp'd boats is getting a loan for one and insurance liability?
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: teamduckdown]
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09/21/18 09:59 PM
09/21/18 09:59 PM
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dnolen
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There's nothing more dangerous than an under horse powered boat. And..sadly half the manufacturer ratings MAX H.P. is underrated. I have a ranger 481vs. Boat is 19'6" total length and rated for a 175. Going by the math they use to figure h.p mine should be good for a 225.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/25/18 07:40 AM
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Robert D.
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The guy who got the ticket must have been near Demopolis and run into Pat Oliver the Game Warden. He pulled me over there one time because he said he thought my outboard (140 Johnson on a 16' Baja) was too LOUD. Asked if I'd cut the exhaust out???
He had LOTS of personality. None of it was likable though.
If I wanted to run a boat with an engine over the rating (like the 90 hp vs 75 mentioned above), I'd find a mid section from an approved size engine (thats where the serial number plate is, as best I recall) and put the powerhead from the engine I want to use on it. This would only work on units that shared a platform size.
Last edited by RobertD; 09/25/18 07:44 AM. Reason: clarity, which my posts almost always need
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/25/18 04:45 PM
09/25/18 04:45 PM
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For the record...Pat Oliver was NOT a GW. He was a Marine Police officer.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: teamduckdown]
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09/26/18 03:56 AM
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R_H_Clark
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There's nothing more dangerous than an under horse powered boat. And..sadly half the manufacturer ratings MAX H.P. is underrated. Please explain how a 150 would be more dangerous on a 200 rated boat?
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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09/26/18 07:06 AM
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hunterbuck
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There's nothing more dangerous than an under horse powered boat. And..sadly half the manufacturer ratings MAX H.P. is underrated. Please explain how a 150 would be more dangerous on a 200 rated boat? I would love to hear an answer to this question, too.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: hunterbuck]
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09/26/18 07:45 AM
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Beadlescomb
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There's nothing more dangerous than an under horse powered boat. And..sadly half the manufacturer ratings MAX H.P. is underrated. Please explain how a 150 would be more dangerous on a 200 rated boat? I would love to hear an answer to this question, too. Pretty sure he's talking about that 18 foot bass trackers with a 40 horse on the back
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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09/26/18 07:51 AM
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There's nothing more dangerous than an under horse powered boat. And..sadly half the manufacturer ratings MAX H.P. is underrated. Please explain how a 150 would be more dangerous on a 200 rated boat? I would love to hear an answer to this question, too. Pretty sure he's talking about that 18 foot bass trackers with a 40 horse on the back May be underpowered...but I'm failing to see any "danger" there. We're not talking about an airplane here.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/26/18 11:00 AM
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dnolen
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Rough water you want the power to keep the nose up. If your under powered andcant keep the nose up you will submerge the boat. Example my bass tracker has 80 on it. That's what it is rated for. I have been on pickwick and not be able to get back up stream due to the current. About sunk it another time because I couldn't get the nose up. Those two there was no chance of rain and they supposed to running one turbine. Not all boats are under rated bad but some are. Now just out riding on smooth water. No danger in it.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/26/18 11:34 AM
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Beadlescomb
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Rough water strong current high winds etc. It would be easy to get swamped in a boat like that
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/26/18 06:44 PM
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Ok hold on a minute. You telling me that a bass tracker with an 80 HP motor was WOT in current and not moving forward or gaining ground? If that’s what you indeed are saying I’m gonna have a hard time believing that. Granted I’ve never been below the Pickwick dam. I have been below the Guntersville dam when they were running over 40,000 with the turbines and my boat running my 24 volt trolling motor would gain ground in those conditions. I did get caught in a swirl or whirlpool or whatever you want to call it and got pulled backwards into it but the outboard pulled us out of that with very little throttle.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: FurFlyin]
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09/26/18 07:40 PM
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hunterbuck
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Ok hold on a minute. You telling me that a bass tracker with an 80 HP motor was WOT in current and not moving forward or gaining ground? If that’s what you indeed are saying I’m gonna have a hard time believing that. Granted I’ve never been below the Pickwick dam. I have been below the Guntersville dam when they were running over 40,000 with the turbines and my boat running my 24 volt trolling motor would gain ground in those conditions. I did get caught in a swirl or whirlpool or whatever you want to call it and got pulled backwards into it but the outboard pulled us out of that with very little throttle. Agree. Something's wrong with that outboard if that's the case. Sounds more like a case of not enough boat to be on that lake, rather than not enough horsepower.
"You think I care? Roll Damn Tide"
Have you tried Google?
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: dnolen]
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09/26/18 08:38 PM
09/26/18 08:38 PM
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klay
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You ever been on the river and them open alll the flood gates. Lol it sucks. Yes y'all are right it wasn't enough for those conditions. Any other time it would be fine. Even with the 80 it topped out at 35mph. Boat was heavy. It was a old v-17. You need one of these: https://youtu.be/AR_fsmgI8mU
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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09/27/18 07:48 AM
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Rough water strong current high winds etc. It would be easy to get swamped in a boat like that
In such a case the danger may be more of a case of bad judgement than under powered boat.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
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09/27/18 03:07 PM
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Drake322
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Back in mid 80s Skeeter made a boat I believe it was an FS80? maybe. Anyhow, at Buck's, we used to sell corner pieces to mount on the rear. Using the math formula it would increase the HP rating from a 125 to a 150, all for $25 worth of chrome bling. Most of the guys would buy them and put 175 Mariners on them. Tough as chit to drive WAO.
Last edited by Drake322; 09/27/18 03:07 PM.
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Re: Exceeding Max. HP
[Re: volfan]
#2592962
09/28/18 08:50 AM
09/28/18 08:50 AM
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I used to fish with a guy that ran a 150hp cowl on a 200hp Merc with a chopper prop fitted to a 17' fiberglass boat of some kind. Geez it would peel your eyelids back.
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