I strongly disagree the 7-08 rounds being just for deer. I think the average 140gr type is too hard and too penetrating for deer sized animals. I actually get better consistancy with a 30-30 on deer and hogs (at my short ranges). The 7-08 will likely drop anything on the planet without much of a problem.

The 7-08 ain’t no joke on paper and could be a heck of a one gun solution, I just think the 120’s make it more of a deer gun.

My whole “blue box” analogy is I’ve seen more than one guy set parameters for his perceived or real scenerio and buy $40 per box ammo that doesn’t kill any better than say a bigger caliber (30-06 or 7mm mag for example) using cheap blue box. Of worst yet, try to develop a hand load that is still inferior to a larger caliber in blue box.

Hey, I’m guilty too.

It's absolutely a miracle that the western frontier was conquered by black powder 40 calibers.
I'm always amused by the guys who talk down the small calibers.
You can easily kill anything in north America with a 223.
Obviously the 30-30 or 223 wouldn't be my first choice for grizzly bear, but both can get the job done.

I'm a big fan of the quarter bores also, but the original question was about the 7mm_08

Mine has a Shilen barrel, and loves the 120 grain bullets. Kills quick.

I don't believe it's JUST for deer. But the bullet weights ,velocities, and rifle configurations are conducive to deer hunting as much as any other caliber.

I really only have one bone to pick concerning the 7-08 and its against the ammo manufacturers. The 7-08 is here to stay, a great caliber, but the ammo manufacturers charge too much money. I feel the same about 410 ammo.

It's a volume thing. In volume comes price.

That's why I mentioned 6.5Creedmoor. You can fire 120gr-140gr bullets just like 7MM08 but with more ammo options at usually a little bit cheaper price.
This is me guessing but I believe 6.5Creedmoor will if it hasn't already surpass 7MM08 ammo and rifle sales.
I bought some S&B 6.5Creedmoor 140gr FMJ online for like $12.75 shipped. Yes they're FMJs but for playing around at the range hard to beat that price.

The prices for 7-08 factory bullets are comparable with '06 , 270 , 308 and many other common rounds. I have no idea why anyone would think a 7 - 08 deer round is out of line expensive. I just don't see it. Especially comparing with 410's

I guess it could be a volume thing or a patent thing because I’ve seen a bunch of calibers relegated to obscurity because few companies picked up the ammo for it. Hornady seems to be the best company for supporting newer or oddball calibers.

After all these years there ain’t no reason for a 410 shell to cost so much. All of the componets are well established.

7-08 factory ammo ain’t comparable in price to a 30-06 or 30-30, probably Hornady whitetail is the lowest price.

I know price is subjective too dependent on income -vs- number of game killed per year.

On average probably a little higher, but hey, to each their own.

No problems here. Shooting a handliad Barnes TTSX. Both of these fwll right there
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Can someone tell me what im doing wrong with pics?

I agree with that. I catch them on sale at least once a year for $12-15 a box and sometimes lower. I picked up 1k rounds of Fed premium for $10 a box and free shipping.

Also, for hogs outside of deer season my 7-08 is loaded with PPU soft points that was picked up for about $8-9 ish a box. Have not tried it on deer but hasnt been a hog walk away from a shot from one yet.

I think you're drunk.

The recently highly touted Powermax .30-30 is about $22 per box

Most 7mm-8 ammo is from $22-40 per box

All your .30-06 ammo is $20-40 per box if you exlude the imported FMJ stuff.


That's per Midway.

I guess I could be drunk, but I got my first few hundred powermax 30-30’s for $16 a box at Academy and caught some deals at Buds and Gunbroker for the rest.

Anyway, 7-08 is a good caliber with no monetary love from ammunition manufactures except Hornady.

7mm-08 kills the piss out of em

I posted this earlier on another thread. Exit wound from a 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip from a 7mm-08 at 125 yards.

She staggered about 20 feet before she fell on her own head.

So, the 7-08 can kill deer?

I see you cropped my ugly mug out of that picture. Johnny your sense of reality is screwed up.

A caliber ain’t proven till you get to the Grizzly Bear debate.

Josh -

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