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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: C3SEAST]
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02/19/18 08:23 PM
02/19/18 08:23 PM
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Avengedsevenfold
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Do you think chicken litter has had an impact? Uh yeah. Preacher!!!! Hit him with the Chicken Mafia info
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 08:25 PM
02/19/18 08:25 PM
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Clem
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Forgot about the litter, but yeah, that might be a factor. All the GMO CORN probably does, too.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: Clem]
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02/19/18 08:53 PM
02/19/18 08:53 PM
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turkey247
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Some kind of avian disease. Some kind of pesticide or combo of them. Cyclical reproduction and recruitment (getting poults to age 2+) Predation on poults in down cycle periods - partly due to a decline in trapping and predator hunting in general (raccoons, bobcats, possums, hogs, coyotes) The people who kill 8 or 9 birds in a season in their state (over the limit)
Perhaps it's just a long-term cycle. Dunno. But something's going on.
So..........you bust the door open with - Limit to 3 and shorten the season!! But now, you are not so sure. And nothing in that list, absolutely nothing, has any relation to a limit on male turkey for the honest man.
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 08:59 PM
02/19/18 08:59 PM
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257wbymag
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Yallcan blame litter but you're swinging to miss. Not saying there's not small cases of bad piles but not every pile of litter is bad. I'd say 95% are clean.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: turkey247]
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02/19/18 09:05 PM
02/19/18 09:05 PM
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Clem
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Some kind of avian disease. Some kind of pesticide or combo of them. Cyclical reproduction and recruitment (getting poults to age 2+) Predation on poults in down cycle periods - partly due to a decline in trapping and predator hunting in general (raccoons, bobcats, possums, hogs, coyotes) The people who kill 8 or 9 birds in a season in their state (over the limit)
Perhaps it's just a long-term cycle. Dunno. But something's going on.
So..........you bust the door open with - Limit to 3 and shorten the season!! But now, you are not so sure. And nothing in that list, absolutely nothing, has any relation to a limit on male turkey for the honest man. Perhaps that's why the 5-bird limit hasn't changed, turkey247. But something's going on that is impacting the turkey populations in the Southeast.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 09:07 PM
02/19/18 09:07 PM
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257wbymag
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Yea it's called the nwtf. Introduced too damn many Yahoo!'S to a secret society. That's the root of the problem.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 09:09 PM
02/19/18 09:09 PM
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Clem
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Hahahaha. Probably right.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 09:12 PM
02/19/18 09:12 PM
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257wbymag
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But then again I don't turkey hunt so really doesn't matter to me. Damn foolin things get in our way planting corn and peanuts. Told our tractor drivers to keep an unplugged 870 with bird shot on their tractors. They can stop in mid field and shoot 6 at a time and then keep on planting. Turn around at the end rows and do it all over again on the next pass. Damn seed eaters all they are.
Last edited by 257wbymag; 02/19/18 09:15 PM.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 09:16 PM
02/19/18 09:16 PM
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YEKRUT
Turkey Nut
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Those 10 closed days gives me about 100,000 acres all to myself it looks like.
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: YEKRUT]
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02/19/18 09:17 PM
02/19/18 09:17 PM
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Clem
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Those 10 closed days gives me about 100,000 acres all to myself it looks like. This is the best way to approach it. Silver linings.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: 257wbymag]
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02/19/18 09:28 PM
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Avengedsevenfold
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Yea it's called the nwtf. Introduced too damn many Yahoo!'S to a secret society. That's the root of the problem. Man you just need Whild_Bill to come show you the ropes
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: Avengedsevenfold]
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02/19/18 10:02 PM
02/19/18 10:02 PM
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Do you think chicken litter has had an impact? Uh yeah. Preacher!!!! Hit him with the Chicken Mafia info Found one thread and bumped it to the top
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/19/18 10:08 PM
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I don’t know what’s going on, but the places I used to almost always be able to fool with a bird at Skyline, you’re lucky to hear one now. Something happened to ‘em. There are a few still there, but not like it was.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: AC870]
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02/19/18 10:17 PM
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crenshawco
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I don’t know what’s going on, but the places I used to almost always be able to fool with a bird at Skyline, you’re lucky to hear one now. Something happened to ‘em. There are a few still there, but not like it was. It's because of game check. Now everyone knows Jackson county is the best deer and turkey hunting in the state. Everybody is flocking to skyline including the dreaded OOSers because they're looking at the game check data. Any turkey hunter knows pressure will ruin a good turkey spot quick.
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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02/20/18 09:21 PM
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C3SEAST
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Do you think chicken litter has had an impact? Uh yeah. Preacher!!!! Hit him with the Chicken Mafia info Found one thread and bumped it to the top Pcp, thanks for resurrecting the threads. I was really asking a rhetorical question, I just wanted someone else to confirm what I already knew the answer was. It kind of reminds me of coyotes and deer. A few people realized in the mid 90s that we were going to have a problem, but it didn't become accepted in mainstream wildlife management circles until just a few years ago. I'm not trying to start unfounded rumors about the poultry industry. I have more than one very good friends that make their living with chicken houses and litter, but I think we would be foolish not to be realistic about the possible, and in my opinion, probable, negative effects on our environment. It's not just wildlife impacts either, I wonder what will happen to our groundwater quality after years of 2 ton to the acre per year, and sometimes more, of litter being applied, air quality, etc. There's literally thousands of poultry houses in southeast Alabama now and I fully understand, appreciate and have benefitted from the economic impact, but we've got to start asking some tough questions or I'm afraid wild turkeys will be the least of our worries in a few years.
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Re: Turkey Season delayed 10 days on WMA's
[Re: GomerPyle]
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02/20/18 09:36 PM
02/20/18 09:36 PM
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257wbymag
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Chicken litter is not your environmental worry.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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