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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: Fun4all] #2401839
02/08/18 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
And around and around we go!! If people would put in the amount of effort learning how to hunt that they do whining, crying and whining and crying about finding the easiest, laziest way to kill a deer they would actually see and kill more and better deer. But carry on learning nothing than where the cheapest place to buy corn!! Woodmanship be damned!!


Yep, no woodsmanship. Some folks can't kill a buck unless it's during the rut. I agree with you, we should outlaw that too cause there's not enough effort. That'll teach them and make them learn how to hunt. Good post Fun4all.


N2TRKYS, you think sitting over a pile of corn shooting turkeys should be legal?

And the race to the bottom continues!


If it doesn't hurt the resource, I don't care if it's legal or not. I'm not gonna talk down on folks that are following the rules and are getting out and enjoying the outdoors.
But, you keep racing to your bottom.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: Fun4all] #2401841
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
And around and around we go!! If people would put in the amount of effort learning how to hunt that they do whining, crying and whining and crying about finding the easiest, laziest way to kill a deer they would actually see and kill more and better deer. But carry on learning nothing than where the cheapest place to buy corn!! Woodmanship be damned!!


You must have some great land and plenty of time to hunt. Otherwise, you wouldn't be spewing this garbage. Being pro bait does not make someone a poor woodsman. Not everyone has access to prime land or can be in the woods a half-dozen times a week. Alot of folks work and have family obligations. Personally, I've got about 3-4 hours one day a week that I can be in the woods. Yes, it would be nice to be able to increase my odds with a little corn. One minute you anti bait guys talk about how corn makes it too easy and the next how it doesn't really help. You probably all think it's just fine to sit over a cut corn field.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: ZS81] #2401849
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I don't have time or prime land and I have 0 desire to hunt over corn.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: 300gr] #2401850
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Originally Posted by 300gr
Just make it ILLEGAL. Problem solved . No game warden opinions as to who to ticket.


Making it LEGAL would solve more problems than making it ILLEGAL creates. No valid reason for it to be a crime. Problem solved.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2401853
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Not trying to start a fight but how many people that would hunt over corn for deer are against it for turkeys.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: twaldrop4] #2401867
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Not trying to start a fight but how many people that would hunt over corn for deer are against it for turkeys.



Me. Turkeys have to walk in the daylight and they are incredibly stupid to begin with and they can’t smell. It’s not an apples to apples comparison

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: twaldrop4] #2401868
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Not trying to start a fight but how many people that would hunt over corn for deer are against it for turkeys.


Why just deer? Hunting any game animal, including hogs and coyotes, is illegal and the commissioner violates the law when he issues permits to allow hunting over bait.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: twaldrop4] #2401871
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
I don't have time or prime land and I have 0 desire to hunt over corn.


Congratulations. I respect your decision to not hunt over corn.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: 300gr] #2401876
02/08/18 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 300gr
Just make it ILLEGAL. Problem solved . No game warden opinions as to who to ticket.


Baiting is illegal. You talking about the current 100 yard supplemental BS? If so that will never happen, that was only passed so the high fence operations could continue "supplemental feeding legally" year round lol


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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2401925
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If they are going to limit you to x amount then it shouldn’t matter if you use bait or not. I have hunted over it legally in Texas, over cut corn fields in IL and without it in Alabama. If they legalize it I will use it as a method same as I do when I plant food plots, put fert around specific oak trees and walk a drag line of doe pee into my stand. All have worked for me in killing deer. Will I ONLY hunt over bait? No because there will be times when it will be smarter to hunt other areas where it isn’t.
If a guy pays for his license and shoots what he is supposed to shoot by law then more power to him. If he chooses to enjoy his time afield watching a corn pile then have at it brother. If you choose not to, then have at it brother. Some of y’all need to get off your high horse and just learn to live and let live.


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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2401970
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We run feeders year round for the most part (stop when/if hogs move in but that's rare). If it becomes legal we may add a couple feeders but it still won't affect how I hunt 90% of the time. We have a feeder right off a field now (200 yards from stand and you can't see it because the field hooks around) the camera on it shows the deer to spend more time in field than eating at a feeder.

Our densities are VERY low so we utilize everything we can to recruit more deer.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2401974
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Putting people in jail for hunting over corn jeez. A lot of folks are against the government imposing any kind of regulation at GC, doe days, buck limits just about anything you can name.Unless it is something they agree with then it is bring it on. More rules and regulations and put them in jail.


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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: James] #2402005
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by 300gr
Just make it ILLEGAL. Problem solved . No game warden opinions as to who to ticket.


Baiting is illegal. You talking about the current 100 yard supplemental BS? If so that will never happen, that was only passed so the high fence operations could continue "supplemental feeding legally" year round lol

So True. Big fence = Big money = Big influence


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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2402167
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I have no interest in shooting a turkey under any circumstance.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2402299
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I am only interested in feeding the deer that frequent the property I hunt the absolute maximum possible. Adding in the ability to corn roads with my tractor every few weeks on top of planting plots would be a valuable resource to those property managers that are trying to increase deer populations any way they can in low density areas.

These poor deer need to eat y'all, I can't understand why so many lose their freaking mind over some food that is no different than wheat growing in the ground.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2402512
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It’s to the point now that you have to feed if you want to keep deer on your property. I’m all for fewer laws and less government intrusion, and believe game wardens should be chasing serious problems like night hunters and poachers. But, I would be all for paying for a permit if it would go toward warden salaries, both increasing salaries and hiring more wardens.


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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: twaldrop4] #2402529
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Not trying to start a fight but how many people that would hunt over corn for deer are against it for turkeys.


Me. I don't shoot a gobbler unless I call him in. I hunt in Florida and Alabama and we have to use corn in Florida to compete with everyone around us.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: 300gr] #2402542
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Originally Posted by 300gr
Just make it ILLEGAL. Problem solved . No game warden opinions as to who to ticket.


Just make it LEGAL! Problem solved, no need for game warden to ticket anyone.

Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: Out back] #2402546
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Fun4all
And around and around we go!! If people would put in the amount of effort learning how to hunt that they do whining, crying and whining and crying about finding the easiest, laziest way to kill a deer they would actually see and kill more and better deer. But carry on learning nothing than where the cheapest place to buy corn!! Woodmanship be damned!!

Amen!
I agree wholeheartedly.
Baiting good should illegal, period.
A stiff fine and some jail time would provide adequate prevention.


I'm with this crowd.


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Re: baiting bill in legislature [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2402548
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I dont really understand why there is even any debate on this subject. Just legalize it. 50% of the state is already hunting over corn (NO, not supplemental feeding but using it to influence deer movement in an attempt to make them easier to kill). It was bad to start with and has only gotten worse with the 100 yds and out of sight BS. Go to any gas station, walmart, or co-op during the season, they stock it by the pallet load and can hardly keep the stuff in stock. Then go back to those same stores 2 weeks after the season ends and they will be lucky to sell 5 bags combined across all locations. I personally will not hunt over corn but if that's what people want to do, then why not let them. It's not like it is not already happening all over the state. Trust me, if disease caused by deer feeding in close proximity to each other on corn was going to wipe out our deer herd, it would have happened years ago.

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