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baiting bill in legislature
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02/07/18 04:46 PM
02/07/18 04:46 PM
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bamaeyedoc
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My son is doing an internship at the state house and evidently there is a bill coming up for discussion on modifying the supplemental feeding law for deer. They are trying to modify it to eliminate the "100 yards, out of sight" rule or something. Something to do with hogs too. I haven't seen it although he's supposed to email me a copy. Y'all know anything about this?
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: hunting13]
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02/07/18 04:54 PM
02/07/18 04:54 PM
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Remington270
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Last I heard they wanting a permit to put up a feeder What a joke. Just make it legal.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 05:06 PM
02/07/18 05:06 PM
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BhamFred
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requiring an individual person to get a permit to hunt over bait is a FUBAR plan from the get go. One guy in a club has a permit to hunt over bait but his buddies nearby can get arrested?? WTH is that?
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 05:12 PM
02/07/18 05:12 PM
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Clem
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"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 05:17 PM
02/07/18 05:17 PM
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BhamFred
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if Montgomery has 100 million extra they still wouldn't hire more GWs. GWs are the ugly redheaded stepchild of the DCNR. I heard a past Director say thet he didn't even need GWs, that his biologists could make more deer than the outlaws could kill.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: Remington270]
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02/07/18 05:29 PM
02/07/18 05:29 PM
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Last I heard they wanting a permit to put up a feeder What a joke. Just make it legal. Agree, and I once didn’t feel this way. Let the wardens focus on the trespassers, poachers, and bag limit offenders.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/07/18 05:30 PM
02/07/18 05:30 PM
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tenthlegionnaire
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requiring an individual person to get a permit to hunt over bait is a FUBAR plan from the get go. One guy in a club has a permit to hunt over bait but his buddies nearby can get arrested?? WTH is that? Put hunting clubs in a data base and make each club pay a baiting fee depending on acreage of club ( The more land the higher the fee). Then make the fine for baiting without a permit so high you wouldn't want to chance it. Its eventually going to pass ( its like big citys in the bible belt on alcohol sales there's too much money to be made to keep fighting it) you might as well have a good plan to profit off it.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: burbank]
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02/07/18 05:30 PM
02/07/18 05:30 PM
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MarksOutdoors
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Last I heard they wanting a permit to put up a feeder What a joke. Just make it legal. Agree, and I once didn’t feel this way. Let the wardens focus on the trespassers, poachers, and bag limit offenders. Yeppers.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/07/18 05:31 PM
02/07/18 05:31 PM
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tenthlegionnaire
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if Montgomery has 100 million extra they still wouldn't hire more GWs. GWs are the ugly redheaded stepchild of the DCNR. I heard a past Director say thet he didn't even need GWs, that his biologists could make more deer than the outlaws could kill. That is sad Fred I hate to hear that
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 05:42 PM
02/07/18 05:42 PM
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Turkey_neck
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Just put it $10 a feeder and make sure $9 is earmarked for game and fish give the general fund $1. Make it where it’s voted on by the people and the state can’t touch any money except the $1 per they get. You would make a shucks load of money at just that rate. Make it a $1000 fine if caught Hunting over a non permitted feeder.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 06:21 PM
02/07/18 06:21 PM
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A database for clubs? They still have some issues with GameCheck now in its second year.
Fifty bucks for a permit?
Good grief. What have we come to?
I still don't understand how a group that supposedly is majority conservative screams about about Big Government and votes for legislators who play to the base of Less Government, yet will turn around and voluntarily ask for more permits, fees and regulation.
How about we go to individual weapons permits and fees like Tennessee and Mississippi? You buy a license, and then pay extra for a bow permit. or a rifle permit. And a muzzleloader permit. And a crossbow permit. License plus x-permits. Hog hunting permits and fees. Fees for the "privilege" of hunting hogs at night - maybe a "Thermal Optics Fee." Might as well. More money. Fishing guides and hunting lodges should pay permit fees, too. Tournaments should pay fees, too.
If we're going to open the can of worms with a "feeder permit" then the gates will be wide open. And then it'll be "They're taxing us to death!"
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 06:33 PM
02/07/18 06:33 PM
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Clem
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In the last 25-30 years, maybe longer, there have been several counties with one or zero game wardens. Some counties with one or zero would have GWs from other counties slide in from time to time to help with problems. Has been an issue for a while.
In the time I've kept up or followed the DCNR, the Law Enforcement Section has never been at full strength. Ever. And I've heard everything from "It's tough to find good recruits to get through the training" to "We can't pay enough and lose them to other states."
IMO the only way to specifically have any license/permit fees go directly to hiring GWs would be to have the money dedicated and unable to be pilfered by Legislature or used for anything else. If I remember correctly, that's how our current general hunt/fish license money is set up - it's dedicated only to DCNR and the Legislature can't get its hands on it. They've tried, before, and can't legally get it. Some states don't have this and get screwed by their legislatures during budget time.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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