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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: ColeT]
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02/07/18 06:38 PM
02/07/18 06:38 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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The simplest thing would be to just legalize it. But then that requires common sense, and I believe none of the law makers have it. It's not ideal at all, probably even ridiculous. But they could just make like a $50 permit per property to legally feed how ever they want. If they restrict it to feeder only that would be the most ridiculously stupid thing they could do. Legislators have tried to legalize baiting for many years. They've always been shot down in committee or it never came to a vote on the floors of both houses, thanks to pressure-discussions-agreements or whatever from DCNR people and others. It's been one of the biggest things DCNR has fought with legislators about for years, almost in every Session. Myron Penn, who I think was the rep or senator from Bullock County several years ago, introduced a bill almost every session and it always failed. It's been tried repeatedly and ultimately defeated or died after first or second reading. It'll ultimately pass, one day. But they'll attach the "permit fee" to it, despite the GOP-controlled Legislature saying it's for less government, and then move on to the next hot-button issue.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bigt]
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02/07/18 07:51 PM
02/07/18 07:51 PM
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Auburn, Alabama
Zay334
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Auburn, Alabama
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Neither myself nor my club is paying Jack to the state to hunt over bait unless they remove all these bears from here . Call me what you want. I'm in lee county. The last time we had a bear down here we told them come get it or its going to die!
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 08:00 PM
02/07/18 08:00 PM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Either make it legal or illegal in every aspect. Quit trying to pussyfoot around by "defining supplemental feeding", or allow feeders with permits. if they made it legal, I would want to see a more stringent way to control limits. Stronger penalties for illegal kills and possibly a tag system instead of a Game Check system that doesn't work as advertised half the time.
BTW, I spoken to GWs that oppose the buying a permit idea. They, or he, doesn't like the idea of making it any easier for a rich man to kill a deer than a poor man. Since I'm in the poor man category, I'm in his corner.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: Zay334]
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02/07/18 08:05 PM
02/07/18 08:05 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Neither myself nor my club is paying Jack to the state to hunt over bait unless they remove all these bears from here . Call me what you want. I'm in lee county. The last time we had a bear down here we told them come get it or its going to die! Why would you kill it? It's not going to crawl into your camp or up your stand and eat you.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 08:07 PM
02/07/18 08:07 PM
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northport
deadeye48
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If it goes to having a permit per feeder then the GW will have to check every feeder or person to see if theyre legally/illegally hunting so nothing would change
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 08:13 PM
02/07/18 08:13 PM
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Scout308
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Once all of these fees start, were will it end? Maybe they will start to impose fees on food plots? When it comes to money, the Government wants every cent they can get their hands on!
"America First! Nothing Else Matters"
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 08:25 PM
02/07/18 08:25 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Oh, c'mon now Scout308. You shouldn't mind paying more for hunting privileges. It helps everyone!
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: Clem]
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02/07/18 08:43 PM
02/07/18 08:43 PM
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North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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A database for clubs? They still have some issues with GameCheck now in its second year.
Fifty bucks for a permit?
Good grief. What have we come to?
I still don't understand how a group that supposedly is majority conservative screams about about Big Government and votes for legislators who play to the base of Less Government, yet will turn around and voluntarily ask for more permits, fees and regulation.
How about we go to individual weapons permits and fees like Tennessee and Mississippi? You buy a license, and then pay extra for a bow permit. or a rifle permit. And a muzzleloader permit. And a crossbow permit. License plus x-permits. Hog hunting permits and fees. Fees for the "privilege" of hunting hogs at night - maybe a "Thermal Optics Fee." Might as well. More money. Fishing guides and hunting lodges should pay permit fees, too. Tournaments should pay fees, too.
If we're going to open the can of worms with a "feeder permit" then the gates will be wide open. And then it'll be "They're taxing us to death!"
Outstanding Post Clem. People clamoring for less government unless it serves there own needs. Both republicans and democrats are the same in this regard. Less government should always be just plain 'ole LESS GOVERNMENT
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: Clem]
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02/07/18 08:53 PM
02/07/18 08:53 PM
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Scout308
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Everyone? The only ones it benefits is the State!
"America First! Nothing Else Matters"
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: bamaeyedoc]
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02/07/18 08:57 PM
02/07/18 08:57 PM
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Clanton
Turkey_neck
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I want more gws in the state cause im tired of calling and getting nothing done because you have 1-2 per county. Then you’re lucky if the one you have will get off his ass besides checking on his cows. I would be more then happy to pay $10 per feeder to get more accomplished and more poachers and night hunters off the rd.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/07/18 09:23 PM
02/07/18 09:23 PM
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Jasper, AL
joshm28
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if Montgomery has 100 million extra they still wouldn't hire more GWs. GWs are the ugly redheaded stepchild of the DCNR. I heard a past Director say thet he didn't even need GWs, that his biologists could make more deer than the outlaws could kill. Matt I'm gonna need you to get busy on our place next week!
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: joshm28]
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02/07/18 09:33 PM
02/07/18 09:33 PM
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Right behind you
Mbrock
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Right behind you
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if Montgomery has 100 million extra they still wouldn't hire more GWs. GWs are the ugly redheaded stepchild of the DCNR. I heard a past Director say thet he didn't even need GWs, that his biologists could make more deer than the outlaws could kill. Matt I'm gonna need you to get busy on our place next week! I’m on it!!
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: Mbrock]
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02/07/18 10:55 PM
02/07/18 10:55 PM
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alabama
BhamFred
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alabama
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if Montgomery has 100 million extra they still wouldn't hire more GWs. GWs are the ugly redheaded stepchild of the DCNR. I heard a past Director say thet he didn't even need GWs, that his biologists could make more deer than the outlaws could kill. Matt I'm gonna need you to get busy on our place next week! I’m on it!! I gotta go clorox my brain for what I was thinking reading that.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/07/18 10:59 PM
02/07/18 10:59 PM
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Jasper, AL
joshm28
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if Montgomery has 100 million extra they still wouldn't hire more GWs. GWs are the ugly redheaded stepchild of the DCNR. I heard a past Director say thet he didn't even need GWs, that his biologists could make more deer than the outlaws could kill. Matt I'm gonna need you to get busy on our place next week! I’m on it!! I gotta go clorox my brain for what I was thinking reading that..... Lol
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: outdoors1]
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02/07/18 11:26 PM
02/07/18 11:26 PM
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Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Florida has allowed baiting for over 30 years no permit. The population is still going strong no major diseases. Corn kills deer is what some idiots believe. It's diseases from other animals or occur naturally that usually kills deer. Why waste law enforcements time with permits they need to be busting drug dealers and poachers. Bag of corn is expensive enough and is taxed already. Leave the sportsmen alone no more permits! I say give Wildlife Enforcement money off the extra revenue of sales tax corn will raise. Not many around here wanna compare us to FL. They allow you to kill 2 bucks a day, allow baiting, and still has good deer hunting. The key difference from AL is they have only a few days to shoot does. My family in the panhandle used to hunt with me every year, but now they have much better hunting than I do. Somehow they have avoided the qdm people taking over and have not had the doe slaughter. Amazing that such a simple concept can work so well. No GC, no buck limit, and they still have great hunting because the state doesn't allow people to kill all the does.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: baiting bill in legislature
[Re: Clem]
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02/08/18 07:31 AM
02/08/18 07:31 AM
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Lincoln, Alabama
blumsden
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Lincoln, Alabama
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Neither myself nor my club is paying Jack to the state to hunt over bait unless they remove all these bears from here . Call me what you want. I'm in lee county. The last time we had a bear down here we told them come get it or its going to die! Why would you kill it? It's not going to crawl into your camp or up your stand and eat you. Duh, Clem. People have to kill every animal that might interfere with deer or turkey. We can't let the natural ecosystem exist. We, as humans, know what's best. LOL
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