I only know what I hear and see. I've been killing deer here for over 40 years. I've seen population swings, hunting style changes, small game basically end, dove hunting opportunities erode, and hunter attitude changes. But I have never seen a divide between the hunters and the DCNR like we have now. The GWs seem to be caught in the middle. It seems that salt water fishing, which I only hear about, has been going through a lot of similar problems and a lot of divide there also. Something or somebody is going to have to change.