I also bought a pair of the frogg togg insulated breathables, I believe they licensed out to Rogers now. I won’t be going back to neoprene, forget you’re wearing waders. I wouldn’t buy stout as they are very loose and appear to built as a stout. I’m 6 foot 225 and I could put my arms inside the waders with a jacket on and pull up To my shoulders in my regular 11’s. I like the looseness though, they have a cinch cord at the top and wading belt to take up slack.