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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
#2351357
12/31/17 04:37 PM
12/31/17 04:37 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Your rights are the same anywhere, not just at roadblocks. They cannot search your vehicle without permission or probable cause. All you need to produce is a DL, registration and insurance. Unless you have illegal drugs, guns or open alcohol then there is not likely to be probable cause. You do not have to answer any questions or say a word. And you may video or otherwise record the entire event. No one can stop you from filming and recording.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Out back]
#2351361
12/31/17 04:41 PM
12/31/17 04:41 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
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Your rights are the same anywhere, not just at roadblocks. They cannot search your vehicle without permission or probable cause. All you need to produce is a DL, registration and insurance. Unless you have illegal drugs, guns or open alcohol then there is not likely to be probable cause. You do not have to answer any questions or say a word. And you may video or otherwise record the entire event. No one can stop you from filming and recording. Wow now. How's a gun probable cause?
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: centralala]
#2351364
12/31/17 04:43 PM
12/31/17 04:43 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,807 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Your rights are the same anywhere, not just at roadblocks. They cannot search your vehicle without permission or probable cause. All you need to produce is a DL, registration and insurance. Unless you have illegal drugs, guns or open alcohol then there is not likely to be probable cause. You do not have to answer any questions or say a word. And you may video or otherwise record the entire event. No one can stop you from filming and recording. Wow now. How's a gun probable cause? It’s not.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
#2351371
12/31/17 04:45 PM
12/31/17 04:45 PM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Guns are evil. Didn't you know?
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
#2351374
12/31/17 04:48 PM
12/31/17 04:48 PM
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Posts: 1,680 AL/GA
Bamaturkeykilla
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else.
There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
#2351381
12/31/17 04:53 PM
12/31/17 04:53 PM
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Posts: 26,004 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Remember that if you are hunting, any place that game may be stored is subject to be searched. Someone that works with that will have to explain it better, but I know that is how it works.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Bamaturkeykilla]
#2351383
12/31/17 04:54 PM
12/31/17 04:54 PM
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Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else. Nothing. But usually LEOs that have those kind of reputations get caught stealing broad heads at Bass Pro Shop.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Bamaturkeykilla]
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12/31/17 04:55 PM
12/31/17 04:55 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 26,004 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else. A little thing called ethics and respect for a persons civil rights. Not all LEOs have these, but most do.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Bamaturkeykilla]
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12/31/17 04:55 PM
12/31/17 04:55 PM
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Posts: 3,255 N. Alabama
Reyn
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else. That's right. What is to keep them from planting a dead deer in the back of my truck when i'm not looking. One talks to me while his buddy sets me up?
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: jawbone]
#2351389
12/31/17 04:55 PM
12/31/17 04:55 PM
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Posts: 3,182 Chilton
Powpow65
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so let me get this right.. not that I am a doing anything illegally, if I get stopped at any road block all I have to do is give them my license and insurance and never say a work or nod my head? if I look straight forward the entire time not doing anything, will they not get leery of something and could they do anything. To be clear, if it is just a license check, that would work, although they will ask you questions to get you to speak to see if they can smell alcohol. Also some roadblocks are safety checks and they may tell you to hit your brakes and check the lights, then there are some extreme exigent circumstances where they have set up a road block looking for an escaped convict for example. They would be justified in being a little more intrusive in those. For example, asking you to open your trunk. In the escaped convict situation it's probably still a good idea not to allow a search. They will do it anyway, but if you had something back there I don't think they can get you for it in court anyway
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: jawbone]
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12/31/17 04:55 PM
12/31/17 04:55 PM
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Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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Remember that if you are hunting, any place that game may be stored is subject to be searched. Someone that works with that will have to explain it better, but I know that is how it works. But the key is "if you are hunting."
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: jawbone]
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12/31/17 04:58 PM
12/31/17 04:58 PM
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Posts: 1,680 AL/GA
Bamaturkeykilla
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else. A little thing called ethics and respect for a persons civil rights. Not all LEOs have these, but most do. How you can say that when they ask you questions that should never be asked in a typical "game check block"? People are being searched for no reason cuz they are being threatened of jail time or tickets.
There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
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12/31/17 05:01 PM
12/31/17 05:01 PM
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Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,680 AL/GA
Bamaturkeykilla
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I understand you can say no to this but people agree to it to avoid paying fines or going to jail over this. Yea they may be wrong but it's probably cheaper in the long run for the average Joe to adhere to it than pay a lawyer later to fight something you should never be fighting in the first place.
There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Bamaturkeykilla]
#2351401
12/31/17 05:05 PM
12/31/17 05:05 PM
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Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
14 point
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I understand you can say no to this but people agree to it to avoid paying fines or going to jail over this. Yea they may be wrong but it's probably cheaper in the long run for the average Joe to adhere to it than pay a lawyer later to fight something you should never be fighting in the first place. I know I'm one weird SOB. You can threaten me with snakes and electricity and get my attention but you ain't getting my attention threatening me with jail time and tickets. But people are different.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Bamaturkeykilla]
#2351403
12/31/17 05:06 PM
12/31/17 05:06 PM
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Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 3,255 N. Alabama
Reyn
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else. A little thing called ethics and respect for a persons civil rights. Not all LEOs have these, but most do. How you can say that when they ask you questions that should never be asked in a typical "game check block"? People are being searched for no reason cuz they are being threatened of jail time or tickets. Which people? Who has posted where that has happened? Who has gone through a road block and was arrested for not agreeing to a search by Game and fish?
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
#2351404
12/31/17 05:07 PM
12/31/17 05:07 PM
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Posts: 36,324 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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I had a city police officer telll me he was going to put me in jail one night over some BS deal. I held my arms out and told him to quit talking and take me in. He declined.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: globe]
#2351406
12/31/17 05:08 PM
12/31/17 05:08 PM
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Posts: 1,680 AL/GA
Bamaturkeykilla
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I may have taken it to a stretch but the LEOs and/or GWs are putting people in positions they shouldn't be in. You shouldn't have to know the law to protect yourself from the situations that should never be happening in the first place. That's an ethical issue from the very first wrong or improper question asked.
There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Reyn]
#2351409
12/31/17 05:10 PM
12/31/17 05:10 PM
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Posts: 1,680 AL/GA
Bamaturkeykilla
8 point
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What stops the LEOs or GWs from "creating" probable cause? They can make sheeet up just like anyone else. A little thing called ethics and respect for a persons civil rights. Not all LEOs have these, but most do. How you can say that when they ask you questions that should never be asked in a typical "game check block"? People are being searched for no reason cuz they are being threatened of jail time or tickets. Which people? Who has posted where that has happened? Who has gone through a road block and was arrested for not agreeing to a search by Game and fish? It's the fear of it. Maybe not arrested but ticketed or the fear that you have done something wrong when you haven't. Guess I didn't say that right.
There are two rules for success: 1. Never tell everything you know.
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Re: Warden roadblock
[Re: Bamaturkeykilla]
#2351418
12/31/17 05:16 PM
12/31/17 05:16 PM
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Posts: 3,255 N. Alabama
Reyn
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I may have taken it to a stretch but the LEOs and/or GWs are putting people in positions they shouldn't be in. You shouldn't have to know the law to protect yourself from the situations that should never be happening in the first place. That's an ethical issue from the very first wrong or improper question asked. It's an emotional reaction to the thread that has now started to build on hypothetical situations. There is no indication other than someone that said G&F were doing a roadblock. Now it has expanded to people are being arrested and rights are being violated. If you don't have a pen you are going to prison etc. I do find it ironic that folks want to talk about rights and not talking to LEOs but want to know the number to Game and Fish because their neighbor has corn out or they heard Jim Bob has shot the big buck they had on camera and Game and fish wont do anything.
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