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by AustinC. 05/21/24 05:01 PM
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: pcamper]
#2300183
11/20/17 03:27 PM
11/20/17 03:27 PM
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There are deer, Ive got pics of tons of does and small bucks. They must still be eating acorns, they just aren’t coming into the fields. The one thing I left out is hogs. Ive not seen any but have them on camera. Ive never hunted a area with hogs so I dont know how bad they effect deer.
A side note, last year a 130-140 class deer was taken off this property.
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: 3FFarms]
#2300212
11/20/17 03:41 PM
11/20/17 03:41 PM
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Remington270
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I just don't understand why people don't recognize we have a problem in MANY areas of the state. This is not pointed at your pcamper. It's just been so glaringly obvious for so long and we continue to make excuses. It's too hot. It's too windy. Moon is full. Too many acorns. Corn. Fact of the matter is it's none of the above. The answer is that there just aren't any deer. I've made 5 hunts on my lease thus far and have yet to lay eyes on a deer. They just aren't there. More "data" will fix this problem
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: AC870]
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11/20/17 03:45 PM
11/20/17 03:45 PM
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johndeere5036
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I got a different greenfield problem. Tips of my wheat turning yellow. I know that means it needs something. All the plots are minimal equipment throw n grow. Wish one of the resident gurus would tell me what fertilize to put on them. 34/0/0
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: johndeere5036]
#2300234
11/20/17 03:48 PM
11/20/17 03:48 PM
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ronfromramer
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I got a different greenfield problem. Tips of my wheat turning yellow. I know that means it needs something. All the plots are minimal equipment throw n grow. Wish one of the resident gurus would tell me what fertilize to put on them. 34/0/0 100 lbs per acre right before a rain
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: pcamper]
#2300261
11/20/17 04:01 PM
11/20/17 04:01 PM
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Got any piddlers? I ask because I hunt a 160 acre tract that only I hunt. Well, my boys will go with me but they are still young and sit with me. I've been hunting this property for years. It's surrounded by large, unhunted woods, pastures and a neighborhood so it's almost like a sanctuary. Except for last year, I can count on maybe one hand the number of times I've gone hunting and NOT seen a deer. It wasn't uncommon to see anywhere from 5-12 per 3 hour sit.
Last year the timber got cut which I knew would affect them some. I had out a camera and corn right after the timber cut and was still getting 8-13 does and small bucks on camera during late summer, so I was hopeful. The cutting also opened up the timber for the neighbor to ride a side by side onto the property. I had to remove one of his feeders that he had the nerve to put up. I saw exactly 4 does, a mama and triplets, on two or three hunts and that was it. Nothing else. I haven't been this year so we'll see.
Last edited by ford150man; 11/20/17 04:04 PM.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: pcamper]
#2300295
11/20/17 04:25 PM
11/20/17 04:25 PM
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GKelly
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Ph could be off, may be better food source closer to bedding areas, neighbor has unlimited corn funds or a better field if it's a new field they could just be in the habit of grazing in another area. Put the corn to them heavy a couple months before season to get them coming in the fields next year.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: pcamper]
#2300633
11/21/17 04:14 AM
11/21/17 04:14 AM
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huntbig
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I'm in the same situation camper. It looks like deer will walk through the plot to go elsewhere- I think 1. piddlers 2.neighbor has unlimited corn pile 3. too much native browse
Shouldn't be lack of deer if you have tracks and notable deer on camera.
It's a sanctuary.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: brim54]
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11/21/17 04:46 AM
11/21/17 04:46 AM
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centralala
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My suggestion is take a bush hog in there and cut it down pretty low. Deer like young tender growth I imagine this would help that's what I would do anyway. If my wheat gets 3-4 inches they slack off eating it. 5-6 inches its over. Rape over at about 6inches. Clover still OK 3-6 inches. The reason for planting a mix. Just what I've seen through trial and error with a lot of error I've tried cutting it low and did not get favorable results.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: centralala]
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11/21/17 05:58 AM
11/21/17 05:58 AM
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huntbig
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My suggestion is take a bush hog in there and cut it down pretty low. Deer like young tender growth I imagine this would help that's what I would do anyway. If my wheat gets 3-4 inches they slack off eating it. 5-6 inches its over. Rape over at about 6inches. Clover still OK 3-6 inches. The reason for planting a mix. Just what I've seen through trial and error with a lot of error I've tried cutting it low and did not get favorable results. I may have to do this if they don't hit my plots soon.
It's a sanctuary.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: pcamper]
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11/21/17 07:02 AM
11/21/17 07:02 AM
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SouthernRoots
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Im having a similar problem on our lease in Autauga county. We did not secure the lease until August and were not able to get to work on it until September, so we committed the cardinal sin of not doing a soil test before planting. We used WMS triticOats in most of the plots and a general 3 way blend in the 3 others. Early bow season they were up and doing well and the deer were on them pretty heavy. Over the last several weeks however the use has cut down a lot on most of the fields. There are several that are still being used heavily however. I figure this is due to either 1) we've had a really good acorn drop over the last couple weeks 2) Ph was not good in those certain fields so they are less palatable. Oats and wheat all look great, no discoloration or anything. The ones that are not getting used are growing and they too are around 7-8 inches tall all throughout. HowTall is too tall before they become less palatable? Ive heard of mowing clover but would a mowing of these fields help?
Last edited by SouthernRoots; 11/21/17 07:03 AM.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: brim54]
#2300955
11/21/17 09:24 AM
11/21/17 09:24 AM
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it is just my opinion that the deer love new tender growth. No doubt about it. Through the years I've learned what to do on different tracts foodplots. Planting later, for me Oct15-Nov15, helps keeping it young and tender through the season. Heavily grazed plots are planted the earliest and seeded heavier. Less heavily grazed just the opposite. I also have a crazy obsession with Crimson Clover. I put it everywhere and I'm not just talking in foodplots. I put it everywhere I think it may grow.
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: SouthernRoots]
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11/21/17 09:34 AM
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Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
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[quote=SouthernRoots]Im having a similar problem on our lease in Autauga county. We did not secure the lease until August and were not able to get to work on it until September, so we committed the cardinal sin of not doing a soil test before planting. We used WMS triticOats in most of the plots and a general 3 way blend in the 3 others. Early bow season they were up and doing well and the deer were on them pretty heavy. Over the last several weeks however the use has cut down a lot on most of the fields. There are several that are still being used heavily however. I figure this is due to either 1) we've had a really good acorn drop over the last couple weeks 2) Ph was not good in those certain fields so they are less palatable. Oats and wheat all look great, no discoloration or anything. The ones that are not getting used are growing and they too are around 7-8 inches tall all throughout. HowTall is too tall before they become less palatable? Ive heard of mowing clover but would a mowing of these fields help? [/quote
I don't mow clover until after it goes to seed...summer time. What part of Autauga as in North, South, East, West, NE,Nw, etc.?
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Re: Greenfield Question
[Re: AC870]
#2301012
11/21/17 10:29 AM
11/21/17 10:29 AM
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Posts: 10,455 coffee county
goodman_hunter
Booner
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I got a different greenfield problem. Tips of my wheat turning yellow. I know that means it needs something. All the plots are minimal equipment throw n grow. Wish one of the resident gurus would tell me what fertilize to put on them. probably needs some rain
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