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Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: Mbrock] #2296549
11/17/17 06:58 AM
11/17/17 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mbrock

Originally Posted By: AU338MAG
Originally Posted By: Mbrock
All deer don't age the same. I've seen known-aged pen deer that people would estimate at 2-3 years old when they were 10+. Sometimes once they reach that age they're just like an 85 year old man, losing muscle mass, having protruding facial features, and sagging skin around the jaw line. You gotta look at more than sagging bellies and leg lengths when they get old. That deer is definitely old.


I'm no expert but I think aging Texas deer can be difficult. They just don't have the body mass to develop the sway back, sagging belly look of an old Midwest deer. We had an old 5 pt on camera this past year at our club that looked like a fat boar hog with antlers. He survived the season.

Lots of good info in this thread.


Regardless of where you are in the country deer age with the same features, whether they are 150 lbs or 350 lbs. I've seen some mighty respectable south TX deer. Not uncommon to see them at or over 200 lbs. they're a lot like our deer in most of AL on body mass. Individual differences in how deer age play a bigger part than does location or body mass. There are small puny looking deer and muscled up freaks in the same population, just like you see in people. I'm one of those small puny looking ones, so I can tell what they look like in a hurry. Lol.


Thanks for the input Matt. When I go to buy a shirt and the saleswoman asks what my size is I reply - "tall and fat" frown


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Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: 2Dogs] #2296782
11/17/17 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Antlers are not supposed to play any role in aging.


Well in our area with age comes mass so yes we can generally age via rack. Also with the differing guesses can we do much more then SWAG via body size.

Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: jallencrockett] #2296845
11/17/17 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Antlers are not supposed to play any role in aging.


Well in our area with age comes mass so yes we can generally age via rack. Also with the differing guesses can we do much more then SWAG via body size.


Not possible to age a deer based on antlers

Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: BhamFred] #2296858
11/17/17 01:26 PM
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3.5 year old


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Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: BhamFred] #2297025
11/17/17 04:01 PM
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Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.

Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: jallencrockett] #2297147
11/17/17 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


Absolutely. Cause you can't.

Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: jallencrockett] #2297160
11/17/17 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


I'm pretty good at guesstimating racks laugh


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: 257wbymag] #2297165
11/17/17 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


I'm pretty good at guesstimating racks laugh


Me too. I'm thinking you're a 34C

Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: extreme heights hunter] #2297185
11/17/17 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


I'm pretty good at guesstimating racks laugh


Me too. I'm thinking you're a 34C


Congrats you're the first person I've ever put on ignore. You honker


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: 257wbymag] #2297193
11/17/17 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag

Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


I'm pretty good at guesstimating racks laugh


Me too. I'm thinking you're a 34C


Congrats you're the first person I've ever put on ignore. You honker
racks and honkers! Yep!

Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: BhamFred] #2297453
11/18/17 05:10 AM
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6-7 year old. skin sagging around jaw, nose looks like it may have the roman hump (hard to tell from angle), he looks like he's been around the block a time or two and crossed the street as well. I'm sure when I read this thread B'ham Fred will tell us it's a yearling and that's his 1st set of horns but oh well.


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: 257wbymag] #2297456
11/18/17 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag

Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


I'm pretty good at guesstimating racks laugh


Me too. I'm thinking you're a 34C


Congrats you're the first person I've ever put on ignore. You honker




rofl


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: 257wbymag] #2297651
11/18/17 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag

Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
Do yall really think that you cant guesstimate a deers age out to 3.5 due to rack.


I'm pretty good at guesstimating racks laugh


Me too. I'm thinking you're a 34C


Congrats you're the first person I've ever put on ignore. You honker


You a lie. You love my posts

Last edited by extreme heights hunter; 11/18/17 02:05 PM.
Re: how old is this buck??? [Re: BhamFred] #2297663
11/18/17 09:58 AM
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