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Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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10/18/17 01:36 PM
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After telling myself for years I wouldn't do it, I finally cant resist any longer...I am starting to learn the trade of duck hunting this year! I have been a couple times before when I was in my early teens and loved it! Now that all of my buddies are doing it and after tasting duck for the first time (loved the duck poppers..), I want to at least learn to hold my own at a duck hole. I am a huge turkey hunter as well as deer hunter, so I have had years experience of learning how to be a woodsman, but any tricks or lessons y'all have that can help the learning curve? Such as what dekes? how wind direction affects a set up? calling tips? (I know how to do a feeding call but need to get a good call for comeback calls etc)
I understand that I will screw up a lot (like I did and still do some in the turkey woods), but if I am going to do something, I want to be the best I can at it. Thanks for the help yall!
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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IMO, get a lease in the delta in MS or AR and go every weekend. When the bug hit me, that's what I did and some of the best times outdoors in my life has been in the flyway. Or go full force and get a boat, dog, and a GPS and hunt public in either state. IMO, you won't get enough exposure to true duck hunting in AL. In AL you will kill all the woodies you want and you will kill some big ducks in the right places but if you are gonna do it, go to the flyway.
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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Hunting small ponds, creeks right off the Tombigbee with a lot of woodies and mallards. I'm not hunting huge lakes with huge spreads just flooded timber and all...I wish I had the time bamaeyedoc, I'm currently in medical school and will just be doing it on the weekends every so often. The hunts I went on as a kid were loaded with ducks in a flyway, but I really will be just hunting with my buddies or my brothers. Just like in turkey hunting turkeys have tendencies sometimes (sometimes they don't lol), but are there any tendencies yall can fill me in on or unwritten rules ducks kinda go by?
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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Woodies are basically done flying 20 minutes after shooting light starts.
Woodies don't like to "decoy," per se. They pretty much are going where they are going to go regardless of if you are there with a decoy set up. However, if they land close by and are on the water they tend to like swimming up to the decoys, though.
Best thing to do is find little ponds or swamps with oak trees and they'll be close. Interesting about them swimming to dekes...I've heard they don't respond to calls and what not...Yeah appreciate that about a roost! What calls and from what company should I look into?
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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10/19/17 02:26 AM
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Don't do it. You think deer hunting is expensive...........
IMO, find some farm ponds with working cattle, find some swamps, leave rivers alone for now. I have killed many ducks over ponds in my life. Swamps are going to give you opportunity for mallards, gadwall, blacks, and teal. Of course woodies will be there but I leave them alone.
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10/19/17 02:29 AM
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You said you had buddies that hunted. Try whatever calls they have and see what you like, everyone is different. You said you can feed call... the only time ducks do the rolling/ machine gun chatter is when they are flying. It sounds really cool, but not very realistic for feeding ducks. When they feed it is very broken up with quacks mixed in. Learn single quacks and 3-5 note calls, that will kill ducks. Call at tips and tails is a good rule, if they are committed and coming in dont blow them out. Youtube videos of real ducks are good, and if you can find some real ducks to go listen too you can learn a lot.
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10/19/17 05:27 AM
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You said you had buddies that hunted. Try whatever calls they have and see what you like, everyone is different. You said you can feed call... the only time ducks do the rolling/ machine gun chatter is when they are flying. It sounds really cool, but not very realistic for feeding ducks. When they feed it is very broken up with quacks mixed in. Learn single quacks and 3-5 note calls, that will kill ducks. Call at tips and tails is a good rule, if they are committed and coming in don’t blow them out. Youtube videos of real ducks are good, and if you can find some real ducks to go listen too you can learn a lot. Some good info here...Like the call at tips and tails rule...It's kinda like calling turkeys when they are committed let em come...I didn't know that about the feed call...Thanks for the info! If anyone has stuff to add please share...such as what to look for with a good duck hole, how weather affects the ducks etc.
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In that case, just do all the scouting you can. Most swamps will have woodies coming into it in the mornings. When you start making big bucks, buy you a place in the flyway! Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
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Ducks will typically land into the wind. So set up decoys on the upwind side. That will give you a crossing shot and ducks will not be looking directly at you. On calm days 3 decoys on a jerk cord will bring in ducks.
Alabama duck hunting can be slow on public areas except for the competition which will be fierce. If you have access to private ponds, creeks or sloughs then check them out. Shooting can be fast and furious.
Some of my most memorable hunts involved Alabama public land hunting. The aggravation of dealing with sky busting, constant hail calls, shooting swing ducks and general disrespect causes me to spend WAY too much money to hunt private land in Arkansas. Awesome stuff man, notes taken! Very much so appreciate the info...will mostly be hunting private land unless I get in a boat with my buddies and all!
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Good point. Regarding the wind, U hunt ducks in the exact opposite direction. Wind at your back. If u are well hidden and still, they will cup into your face and when they are in the decoys, take em! Keep face hidden with a mask or if u want the poo face, go for it. Knowing when to call is important. Do not call when they are facing you. Call them on the corners or when they are flying away from u. Don't try to blow the ass end out of the call.
Best teacher is experience and consistent encounters with the birds.
Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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10/20/17 08:44 AM
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Awesome info yall... really appreciate it all! Like the deke strategies bamaeyedoc and Atoler, but I have to say I would have to call at least a little maybe a quack or two when they aren't committed Atoler, otherwise I would just be deer hunting em....kinda like going turkey hunting and sitting on a field in a blind...ain't my style...How do y'all get to recognizing the ducks so fast? A greenhead is obvious as well as a woodie but what about the others?
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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10/20/17 01:50 PM
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Awesome info yall... really appreciate it all! Like the deke strategies bamaeyedoc and Atoler, but I have to say I would have to call at least a little maybe a quack or two when they aren't committed Atoler, otherwise I would just be deer hunting em....kinda like going turkey hunting and sitting on a field in a blind...ain't my style...How do y'all get to recognizing the ducks so fast? A greenhead is obvious as well as a woodie but what about the others? Oh now you need to call. That's what really got me hooked to the point that I started doing a little competition calling. The key is, just like in turkey hunting, knowing when to do it and what to say. Get Keith Allen's "Fundamentals of Duck Call Operation" CD. You will get to the point of knowing which duck is which by the size. Woodies don't decoy much and you usually shoot them on the pass. Teal will buzz the decoys like little rockets going about mach 5 and either sit right down or make a wide swing and come right back giving you a second chance at them. They are delicious too! Mallards are a lot like a turkey. Sometimes they will be like that 2 year old and come right in and act right and die like they are supposed too. More often though they will circle, and circle, and circle and cup their wings like they are gonna sit down and then something won't look right and they peel back off and are gone. Dr. B
AKA: “Dr. B” Aldeer #121 8-3-2000 Proud alum of AUM, UAB, and UA Member of Team 10 Point 2023-2024 ALdeer Deer Contest Winners
Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris 1938-2017 UGA Class of 1960 BS/MS Forestry LTJG, USNR
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Re: Well, looks like I can't hold out any longer...
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10/26/17 04:57 AM
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Awesome info yall... really appreciate it all! Like the deke strategies bamaeyedoc and Atoler, but I have to say I would have to call at least a little maybe a quack or two when they aren't committed Atoler, otherwise I would just be deer hunting em....kinda like going turkey hunting and sitting on a field in a blind...ain't my style...How do y'all get to recognizing the ducks so fast? A greenhead is obvious as well as a woodie but what about the others? Oh now you need to call. That's what really got me hooked to the point that I started doing a little competition calling. The key is, just like in turkey hunting, knowing when to do it and what to say. Get Keith Allen's "Fundamentals of Duck Call Operation" CD. You will get to the point of knowing which duck is which by the size. Woodies don't decoy much and you usually shoot them on the pass. Teal will buzz the decoys like little rockets going about mach 5 and either sit right down or make a wide swing and come right back giving you a second chance at them. They are delicious too! Mallards are a lot like a turkey. Sometimes they will be like that 2 year old and come right in and act right and die like they are supposed too. More often though they will circle, and circle, and circle and cup their wings like they are gonna sit down and then something won't look right and they peel back off and are gone. Dr. B Awesome info here doc...Thank yall for the help! Let's kill em this year!
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