I tried rattling for the first time and got carried away with it...slapping the ground, rolling in the damn leaves, making a damn commotion. After I sat there for about 30 minutes nothing. Then my phone vibrates and it's one of my big customers in TX who was having some problems...I thought well damn I got to take it. While talking to him play as day I laid the rifle against the tree and proceeded to talk. I felt just happened to look to my left and I counted eights points...he looked at me for about 45 seconds as I stood still then bolted. He was probably 25 yrd from me. I never told the guy in TX.