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Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2150805
06/27/17 05:09 PM
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Black Locust - Janka hardness 1,700

Osage - Janka hardness 2,600

Both are very hard woods but Osage is much harder than Locust

Re: black locust [Re: leroycnbucks] #2150826
06/27/17 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Originally Posted by Deerslyer86

Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by paulfish4570
lots of osage in central/south alabama; probably find some of that much quicker. i've worked locust and osage; both hard to work; osage AND locust trees tend to twist ...


It's also called bodock and all over the place in the black belt prairie of north Mississippi around me.


Also known as Hedge. Hedge is very hard, but locust is a little bit harder



Never heard it called that down here. It's either a bodock or mock orange tree. Cows love them because they can scratch on the fly bites plus they good shade. They'll give a D9 all it wants.
Call makers usually call it Hedge. Hedge is short for hedge apple. Lol. I love turning it. Most of my Coon squallers are made out of Hedge


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Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2150838
06/27/17 05:28 PM
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Just buy you some LV and be done with it. Just wear a respiratory when turning it


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Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2150848
06/27/17 05:36 PM
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If you use Osage,the yellow heart is what you want. Chop or drawknife all the white off and seal it all over while it drys.The white will dry faster and cause a crack in the heart if you don't remove it while it drys. Longitudinal cracks won't hurt anything in a mallet though.

I use to cut it and dry it for self bows.Osage is the best bow wood in the world.

Re: black locust [Re: Deerslyer86] #2150852
06/27/17 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Deerslyer86
Just buy you some LV and be done with it. Just wear a respiratory when turning it


Always wear a respiratory when turning wood. Just don't confuse it with a suppository.

Re: black locust [Re: Fuzzy_Bunny] #2150862
06/27/17 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Bunny
Originally Posted by Deerslyer86
Just buy you some LV and be done with it. Just wear a respiratory when turning it


Always wear a respiratory when turning wood. Just don't confuse it with a suppository.
true, but LV is a different animal. I mainly wear a mask when fooling with exotic woods. Domestic woods I don't worry to much.


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Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2150866
06/27/17 05:50 PM
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Dust is dust, but a lot of exotics do tend to pose a higher risk of alergic reactions. Especially members of the rosewood family.

Also most lv sold now isn't really lv.

Re: black locust [Re: Fuzzy_Bunny] #2150869
06/27/17 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Bunny
Dust is dust, but a lot of exotics do tend to pose a higher risk of alergic reactions. Especially members of the rosewood family.

Also most lv sold now isn't really lv.
I never seen any LV that wasn't LV. I also have contacts to where I can get any type of wood a person wants. I can get a lot of the stuff at a good price as well


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Re: black locust [Re: inatree] #2150899
06/27/17 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by inatree
That black locust bodock is hard as all get out! My grandpaw used to get us to cut and split that stuff for fence post. Last forever!


My paw paw and I cut some about 20 years ago and made some post braces for a gate. They are still there.

I have some growing but I don't think they are near big enough for what you are wanting.


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Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2150945
06/28/17 01:45 AM
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How big a piece do you need?


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Re: black locust [Re: crenshawco] #2151092
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Originally Posted by crenshawco
Black Locust - Janka hardness 1,700

Osage - Janka hardness 2,600

Both are very hard woods but Osage is much harder than Locust


I rented a chainsaw back in Texas to trim some oak. I had to sign a disclaimer that if I used it on Bois d'ark, I get to buy the chainsaw from them.

Re: black locust [Re: Fuzzy_Bunny] #2151131
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If anything is harder than osage (mock) orange, I wouldn't want to fool with it. A chainsaw blade doesn't have a chance with it and it will last forever. The older it gets the harder it is. I've got mock orange fence posts in wet areas that are at least 75 years old

Re: black locust [Re: ronfromramer] #2151339
06/28/17 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
If anything is harder than osage (mock) orange, I wouldn't want to fool with it. A chainsaw blade doesn't have a chance with it and it will last forever. The older it gets the harder it is. I've got mock orange fence posts in wet areas that are at least 75 years old
How much you want for some of those fence post.


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Re: black locust [Re: Deerslyer86] #2151343
06/28/17 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Deerslyer86
Pm me the size you need. I can call a few guys I deal with and get you some


Deerslyer and ridgestalker, all I need is a 4 foot length about 8-10 inches in diameter. Or 2 at 2 feet long. I only need to make a mallet and a handle. Thanks.

Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2151357
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Originally Posted by Wadenthebushes

Originally Posted by Deerslyer86
Pm me the size you need. I can call a few guys I deal with and get you some


Deerslyer and ridgestalker, all I need is a 4 foot length about 8-10 inches in diameter. Or 2 at 2 feet long. I only need to make a mallet and a handle. Thanks.


I'll do some calling around


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Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2151363
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I reused some locust post we had sawed square when I was about 8 or 9 years old this month.{I'm 54} Still hard as a rock. If you ever had the privilege of TRYING to drive staple into a seasoned locust post you'll love T posts. If you need some give me a holler

Last edited by hillmp; 06/28/17 11:04 AM.
Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2151985
06/28/17 11:14 PM
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Old timers use to hand carve oversizeds tools like mallets out of huckleberry root with a knot. I have used one with a steel wedge to split wood. May try that if you are into hand carving. As far as handle goes hickory should be good.

Re: black locust [Re: Wadenthebushes] #2152006
06/29/17 01:14 AM
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I don't do any woodwork for hobby or anything but if anybody ever needs handle for hand tools it's hard to beat a hockey stick

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