Amazingly this one of the very few things the ultra hippie liberal and ultra conservative "don't tread on me" crowd intersect on.

Haven't ever really considered it before this thread

I wouldn't know, thankfully I don't have any family that has been diagnosed with it. I only know what I have witnessed and what I have seen this family struggle with.

I'll take my chances throwing. So, do you let your kids ride in vehicles? Do you allow them to take baths? There are stats to prove that people are negatively impacted by those as well. In fact, the numbers for deaths with just those two things are way, way, way higher than being negatively effected by vaccinations.

I hate weigh in on this. I'm a "you're either free or not" kind of guy most of the time. The science backs up vaccinations as does history. I am on the side of getting everyone vaccinated even though it kind of goes against the grain. At some point, the greater good has to prevail and that's one of them for me.

231 the only reason why I say that is because autism isn't really detectable until the ages of 1-2 that's when personality and "my child doesn't play well or act the same as others" begins to develope.
Like booger said autism is not acquired it is there from birth. Now having said that high fevers can cause brain damage. When vaccines are given it is normal for the body to have a natural immune response aka fevers, body aches and etc etc.

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Oh but I can, because that's how science works.

My son got a 104 fever from the MMR vaccine and now that joker can count to 12 in spanish.

Is there any chance he was exposed to mercury from something else? I here that fish have mercury in them. He should have received his first vaccines at birth, then at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, 15 months and then 4-6 years of age. I don't doubt that the child has something horrible. I've been deeply involved with medicine and special education for over twenty years. I know that the guy that wrote the article linking autism to the MMR vaccine did A LOT OF DAMAGE to the world with his lie. I know the incidence of autism has gone up. However, our ability to diagnose children with autism and other disorders has grown as well. We are able to pinpoint a diagnoses at much younger ages now. Which is great.

I completely agree; but if I were a parent of the very small percentage of children affected - then I would probably fight it to the end.

Guys I started this thread because I have witnessed families refusing to vaccinate their children because they heard that kids get autism from the vaccines. The parents couldn't say where they got there source or that the source was remotely reliable. I wanted to tell them that they could get pregnant by drinking from a water fountain because that's what I was told one time. That's very sad. I just want you guys to have healthy children just like I want healthy children. My child was finally able to receive his vaccinations a few years after contracting Pertussis. Sure, he could be killed by a drunk driver tomorrow. But that's another soap box for another day.

I would definitely say yes - exposure to what I couldn't tell you. If it weren't for the timing of the shot(s) and his condition, then I wouldn't have even mentioned it.

I'm with Geno on this one.

Because one thing happened after the other doesn't mean that they are linked.

As has previously stated. Symptoms of autism don't start showing up until around age two. Parents simply don't understand this and search out answers. They come up with the discredited study and run with it. Then they find others who agree with the unfounded therory, becuse everyone needs something to blame and they fuel each other and bam, the vaccines caused my child's problems.

ROFL! Is he real pale and have the nickname "Powder" ?

They call him rain man

I don't gamble but I'd buy him a suit and let him watch Wopner if you'd lend him out for a Biloxi trip.

I agree the greater good is there. But don't overlook the fact that you have to break some eggs to make an omelet. The eggs in this basket are children. There will be a certain percentage of people with a negative outcome from the use of any drug or vacine. When it's your kid with a reaction that percentage looks to be around 100%.

A lot of science is being used to defend science instead of find the causation. Don't tell me what doesn't cause Autism. Tell me what does. For all we know it's flouride in the water, nuclear radiation from Abomb tests, hereditary genetic mutation, radon, thalidomide, our parents eating lead paint in schools, any number of modern wonders could be the root cause. But all we keep hearing from the scientists is that it ain't their fault. It just can't be vaccines.

Try growing a plant by a wifi hotspot.

I bet none of you have all the shots that your kids got. whats the excuse you use that makes it ok for you not to go back and get the updated schedule? does living an extra 20 years make you automatically immune? lots of flawed logic being used in this debate.

kids these days get like 60 something doses by the time they start school. I think immunization is great but I also know they got the $ in their eyes and way over do it these days. my oldest son had a reaction to MMR and damn near died. he has coincidentally had chronic respiratory issues ever since.

My wife just got MMR 2 and she's 45.

I was military and deployed to some really weird places so I got all of them as a kid and then a ton I had never even heard of.

We practice what we preach.