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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: bill]
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04/25/17 02:51 PM
04/25/17 02:51 PM
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What are the pros/cons of this?
Higher cost for new construction is the first that comes to mind since we use a lot of Canadian lumber. I guess that would be a pro for government revenue but a con for builders and consumers. Builders don't care, it's a pass through. They do when people stop buying new construction in favor of older homes. So where do the people in the older homes go?
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: Dallas County]
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04/25/17 03:26 PM
04/25/17 03:26 PM
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Posts: 13,936 Mobile, AL
SouthBamaSlayer
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What are the pros/cons of this?
Higher cost for new construction is the first that comes to mind since we use a lot of Canadian lumber. I guess that would be a pro for government revenue but a con for builders and consumers. Builders don't care, it's a pass through. They do when people stop buying new construction in favor of older homes. So where do the people in the older homes go? 6ft under lol
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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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04/25/17 04:20 PM
04/25/17 04:20 PM
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Posts: 44,211 North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
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What are the pros/cons of this?
Higher cost for new construction is the first that comes to mind since we use a lot of Canadian lumber. I guess that would be a pro for government revenue but a con for builders and consumers. Builders don't care, it's a pass through. They do when people stop buying new construction in favor of older homes. So where do the people in the older homes go? 6ft under lol Yep, you heard it here first........Trump gonna kill old people just like Pelosi said. She had no idea it would be over 2x4s though
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: burbank]
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04/26/17 01:06 AM
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Was does American produced goods HAVE to cost more. Is it labor cost? If so, why won't Americans work for what citizens of other countries work for? I would think if you abolish the minimum wage and abolish welfare, prices for US goods would come down and believe it or not unemployment would fall.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!! GO BRAVOS!!
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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: burbank]
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04/26/17 01:10 AM
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I thought Brazillian timber was hurting our timber industry more than Canadian timber? I seem to remember that from a news story a while back.
Never Trust Government
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: tjmcdwll]
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04/26/17 01:11 AM
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Was does American produced goods HAVE to cost more. Is it labor cost? If so, why won't Americans work for what citizens of other countries work for? I would think if you abolish the minimum wage and abolish welfare, prices for US goods would come down and believe it or not unemployment would fall. The reason Canadian timber is cheaper is that the government is letting the logger's cut all the wood for free, or close to it. That doesn't happen in America, obviously.
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Re: Trump looking to tax canadian timber
[Re: timbercruiser]
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04/26/17 01:47 AM
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In the 90's I was working buying logs for a family owned sawmill. The Canadian's were beating our socks off with their prices on lumber delivered to the US. The lumber organization got a few lobbyist to get a law passed to help out. The wording of the agreement had a big old loophole in it. They drilled a 1/32nd inch hole near the end of the boards and shipped them as being a finished product, internet hole, and didn't miss a beat. You couldn't hardly see the little hole. The Canadian sawmills get their logs off of government (Crown) land for basically free cost. They have one sawmill, Canfor, that can cut 600 million feet of lumber in a year, Graceville Lumber is one of the biggest around here and it might get 1 million feet in a week, sometimes.. They had a 1300 mile long by 400 mile wide bug kill they were working on then and they were whacking and stacking 24/7. I wouldn't hold my breath on the US lumber producers and the loggers getting much help. That explains our problem very well. The American forest industry is competing against a Canadian industry that pays no stumpage value so that their citizens can have jobs. That doesn't seem like free trade to me, but in almost every industry we are playing by a different set of rules than our competitors. Trump campaigned on leveling the playing floor; glad to see he is at least trying to do what he said. I doubt it helps the southern forest industry. 20% isn't enough to matter that much.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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