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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: dagwood]
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04/14/17 05:28 PM
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21,000 lb bomb. I live about 40 miles from Eglin AFB and when they tested it a year or 2 ago, I could hear the explosion plain as day. Yep...I don't know exactly where on the Eglin Reservation it was dropped, but we're about 45 or so miles north, as the crow flies. I was working outside when it went off...heard and felt the blast (blasts...there were actually two), and saw the cloud.
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: Skinny]
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04/14/17 05:35 PM
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Propaganda used in a shithole. Anyone who has been in Afghanistan would understand.
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: PaschalBD]
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04/14/17 05:52 PM
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Penetrating bomb is called "The bunker buster". Remember during Operation Desert Storm, when world media made a big deal out of a US bomb having hit an Iraqi air raid shelter and killing 230-some odd civilians? As Paul Harvey would say, here's "The rest of the story"...Saddam Hussein was moving around a lot, I mean a LOT, several times a day, several times a night. We actually taught him this during his war with Iran, who were the bad guys at the time. He was spending a tremendous amount of time in hardened Command & Control bunkers, and the US needed something to be able to effectively target them with. You'd hear a lot of "we're not in the business of targeting a nation's leaders" from the talking heads, in those days, but Saddam was also the head of the Iraqi military, which made him an absolute PLUM of a target! Two bombs, about 2500 lbs apiece, were built down in Eglin. The bomb casings were 8" naval battery barrels, to stand up to the rigors of transiting through several yards of steel reinforced concrete at terminal velocity. These bombs were literally built with Saddam's name on them! We received solid intelligence regarding Saddam's whereabouts, and the decision was made to kill him. The bombs were loaded and transported supersonically (read B1, probably, which was otherwise conspicuously absent during Desert Storm). In Saudi, it was moved to an F117, and sent into Indian Country. When the bomb bay door opened over Iraq, the intelligence was 16 hours old, and Saddam was gone. The bomb went approx 11 feet underground before encountering concrete...it penetrated 27 feet of steel reinforced concrete, and detonated inside the bunker, killing everyone and everything inside it. Ever on the lookout for a chance to score a propaganda coup, Saddam had taken to filling the bunkers with civilians and calling them air raid shelters immediately after he departed. As I said before, we taught him straight out of our playbook in the early '80's, so he had to have a strong (and reasonable) suspicion that we'd eventually make a play for him. Fortunately, he wasn't able to make as much hay from that as he'd have liked, but he did make some, at the expense of 230-some odd of his own people. Now you know the rest of the story.
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: Skinny]
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04/14/17 06:28 PM
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The MOAB didn't do much to the enemy physically. The real reward comes from the potential recruits who say phuck it after seeing what we can do. It's a psychological game and the dividends are huge. The US just put it's big boy pants on and the rest of the world is chitting their pants. Say what you want about Trump ...well I don't care what you say about Trump. Nevermind.
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
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04/14/17 08:31 PM
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The MOAB didn't do much to the enemy physically. The real reward comes from the potential recruits who say phuck it after seeing what we can do. It's a psychological game and the dividends are huge. The US just put it's big boy pants on and the rest of the world is chitting their pants. Say what you want about Trump ...well I don't care what you say about Trump. Nevermind. Half a mile in every direction and 30ft deep devastating concussion. That was a powerful message and will affect recruiting for ISIS dipshits, no matter how stupid they are.
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: DEADorALIVE]
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04/15/17 03:20 AM
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21,000 lb bomb. I live about 40 miles from Eglin AFB and when they tested it a year or 2 ago, I could hear the explosion plain as day. Yep...I don't know exactly where on the Eglin Reservation it was dropped, but we're about 45 or so miles north, as the crow flies. I was working outside when it went off...heard and felt the blast (blasts...there were actually two), and saw the cloud. Here is where the MOAB was tested, if you scroll out you will see DeFuniak Springs to the NE. http://www.acme.com/planimeter/
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: perchjerker]
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04/15/17 04:18 AM
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Russia claims to have one 4 times as powerful. MOAB yeah we could easily make one four times more powerful. just tape 4 of them together. I used to do this with firecrackers.
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
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04/15/17 05:18 AM
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If I remember correctly the daisy cutters are dropped more than one at a time and those aren't far from the same power as the MOAB
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
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04/15/17 05:55 AM
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Daisy Cutters were used exclusively for creating a LZ for helicopters. They aren't good for destroying tunnel systems under mountains, which was a lesson learned in Vietnam. The gook's tunnels often survived daisy cutter drops which resulted in a lot of helio-ambush attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
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04/15/17 06:19 AM
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The old Romans would count the penises of the dead, but the MOAB might have blown them off. Or burned them damn near off...... http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/electricfence.asp
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: Skinny]
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04/15/17 06:24 AM
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They were used in Vietnam but also during desert storm and were also used early in Afghanistan. The daisy cutter isn't an air fuel blast like the moab so the effect would be different. Anyone in the vicinity would be just as dead though. The DC's are 15,000 pounds of destruction hitting the ground and as I said they are usually dropped in multiples rather than one at a time Daisy Cutters were used exclusively for creating a LZ for helicopters. They aren't good for destroying tunnel systems under mountains, which was a lesson learned in Vietnam. The gook's tunnels often survived daisy cutter drops which resulted in a lot of helio-ambush attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: Skinny]
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04/15/17 06:29 AM
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Re: MOAB used on ISIS
[Re: Skinny]
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04/15/17 06:45 AM
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How could they get an accurate count when some (MANY) are in collapsed tunnels?
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