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Nitro ammo to load tss
#2050357
03/07/17 02:41 PM
03/07/17 02:41 PM
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Posts: 2,258 Tuscaloosa
rackhunter'
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Per their Facebook page they are to start testing loads to sell to the public. I can't imagine what they'll have to charge for them.
The history of the bow and arrow is the history of mankind
I love animals...they're delicious
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 02:43 PM
03/07/17 02:43 PM
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Posts: 11,794 Huntsville
JUGHEAD
Booner
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Sounds like it is about time to stock up on a lifetime of shot I guess.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 02:46 PM
03/07/17 02:46 PM
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Posts: 10,688 Central, Al
Bustinbeards
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It was just a matter of time. They will probably be high dolla no doubt
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 02:51 PM
03/07/17 02:51 PM
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buckbrush
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Already got a lifetime supply so I'm good. I imagine if they are successful in making them then TSS shot will start going up.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 03:00 PM
03/07/17 03:00 PM
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Posts: 4,231 Central Alabama
Yelp softly
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Depending on the amount currently imported, the costs could very well go down. Think of it this way. If the shipping company is currently shipping 1 ton, how much more is it going to cost to ship another 500 pounds? A huge cost of most imports is the shipping costs. Once you're shipping a decent volume, the unit costs start going down.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 03:12 PM
03/07/17 03:12 PM
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I see they are starting out with 7.5 shot because it's legal for most hunters. I wonder what kind of numbers a 3.5" shell with TSS #9 would put up?
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: Southwood7]
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03/07/17 03:20 PM
03/07/17 03:20 PM
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I see they are starting out with 7.5 shot because it's legal for most hunters. I wonder what kind of numbers a 3.5" shell with TSS #9 would put up? I didn't play with the 9s very much, but got 50% in the 10. I got 60% of the 7.5s in the 10, though.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 04:26 PM
03/07/17 04:26 PM
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The thousands of people who are shooting them now have lowered prices if anything. There are a lot of people orderering direct and bringing prices way down these days. I quit shooting nitro ammo due to them being over pressure and the components failing due to that.
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 04:36 PM
03/07/17 04:36 PM
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Except there are only 3 operation mines for tungsten and maybe 1 or 2 suppliers in China and 1 I believe in Europe. Supply isn't going up anytime soon but Demand will go up once if the big ammo companies start making them. Also China is notorious for raising their prices on raw materials when they see an uptick in exports which in the end I think will keep big ammo from diving into Tss to much but just the initial trial run might be enough for a short term increase in the next few years.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: buckbrush]
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03/07/17 04:50 PM
03/07/17 04:50 PM
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Except there are only 3 operation mines for tungsten and maybe 1 or 2 suppliers in China and 1 I believe in Europe. Supply isn't going up anytime soon but Demand will go up once if the big ammo companies start making them. Also China is notorious for raising their prices on raw materials when they see an uptick in exports which in the end I think will keep big ammo from diving into Tss to much but just the initial trial run might be enough for a short term increase in the next few years. I can get prices from 216 different Chinese suppliers right now
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/07/17 06:31 PM
03/07/17 06:31 PM
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buckbrush
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Rochhound they all come from the same place ship out the same port. Unless you FedEx it and then it just fly's lol. But hell when your dealing with China it's coming from just a few people they have a bunch of names on alababa or whatever you call it but in the end it's the same.
Last edited by buckbrush; 03/07/17 06:34 PM.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: JUGHEAD]
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03/07/17 06:51 PM
03/07/17 06:51 PM
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Sounds like it is about time to stock up on a lifetime of shot I guess. No more than I shoot, 20 shells ought to 'bout get me there.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: AC870]
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03/08/17 02:00 AM
03/08/17 02:00 AM
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Tungsten is a commodity metal just like lead, silver, copper, etc. The price is for the most part subject to global influences much more influential than turkey hunting. We have seen TSS price come down a bit in the last year or so because the commodity price of tungsten is down. And when the commodity price of tungsten goes back up, so will the price of TSS. IMO, the cost of shot will not be affected by Nitro's decision to load TSS. They will just get a better price because they can buy it in bulk.
And just as it is cheaper to hand load copper bullets than it is to buy factory bullets, I suspect it will be cheaper to hand load TSS vs buy from Nitro.
People have more fun than anybody.
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Re: Nitro ammo to load tss
[Re: rackhunter']
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03/08/17 05:27 AM
03/08/17 05:27 AM
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I doubt it will have any effect on anything other than a spot on the web site and their pocket book.
Alot of people dealing with it now in the states, I dont see how anyone could make alot on it. Usually the cost of the product plus shipping getting it here is within 10 dollar a pound.
While 10 dollars a pound seems like a good profit, you almost always selling in smaller quantities, so you have to always check your quality coming in and reweigh it in smaller batches per order. Plus the out of pocket cost.
Wouldn't be worth my time, for a small market. And then I doubt many have loads that are tested, unless they are just using Hals loads he asked not to share and used his time and money to make.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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