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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/27/17 06:32 PM
02/27/17 06:32 PM
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Invmp12
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Tennessee
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I think id cut that back to 90 days, 180 at the most. Most of us here remember a sore arse from time to time, and looking back, I deserved every one of them !!
If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/27/17 06:45 PM
02/27/17 06:45 PM
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Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
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Ask my 7 yr old right now. He's in deep shucks. Brought home a 13 and 23 on math test a few weeks ago. We took shucks away that meant the most to him mainly his tool box. We don't play that positive stuff here. We reduced him to nothing and having to dig his way back up. He's capable just don't give a shucks. That's gonna change real quick.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/27/17 06:45 PM
02/27/17 06:45 PM
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Posts: 31,681 Slidell, La
perchjerker
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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The reward for good behavior is not getting your azz torn up. I commend you on being right headed. I see most kids as spoilded brats. My generation worked when we wanted a fishing reel or ball glove. Now they are handed everything. Give me a break, TIME OUT! This attitude is why we see the spoilded brats crying because their side lost the election. It's like the child crying because they want something. today they cry until they get their way instead of their butt torn up.They need to learn respect for everyone, Parents, LEO, God and Country.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/27/17 07:07 PM
02/27/17 07:07 PM
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Posts: 1,007 Roll Tide Town
Smoke_Diver
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Yelka280, y'all sound like me and my wife. My boys are 23 and 18. Been there. Write this down. One day your wife will see the error of her ways and say "you tried to tell me." There was no reasoning with my wife back when and there is no reasoning with these 2 knucklehead boys of mine know. But I'm still trying.
-“No politicians, no salesman and very few friends allowed.” -Jbatey1- "I'd rather be a happy Bammer eating ribeye in a trailer than a miserable barner eating boogers in a mansion." -“If you gonna be stupid, you better be tough!”
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/27/17 07:14 PM
02/27/17 07:14 PM
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AC870
Old Mossy Horns
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Ain't neither one of my kids ever made a dollar outside the home. I mixed mud and toted blocks for my granddad from age 12-18. Guess what? If Paw didn't have a job, my dad had me pulling wire on a house or toting torches and compressors for A/C units. Also raised a garden. Best damn thing ever happened to me. Taught me a work ethic. I made twice the minimum wage before I could drive. So there was definitely some reward too. My grandpa and my dad really knew hard work. Every generation gets a little softer I think. I got a few of them DHR whippings too and I survived. If I ever whooped one of mine just a little I had to fill out a "use of force" report and there was an internal affairs investigation and I ended up on probation.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: turkey247]
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02/27/17 07:46 PM
02/27/17 07:46 PM
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tbest3
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I had a friend say one time that he wanted the world to look at his kids, and say they are "weird" (different).
Pretty much the opposite of what the liberal ideals of society pushes on us. Unrelenting positive reinforcement with few behavorial consequences is simply a liberal ideal.
One of my parenting goals will be judged when my boys are in college. If they go to the beach with their friends on Spring Break, I'll be crushed. If they come home to turkey hunt with their father - success!! That's a great way to measure parenting success. I will have to write that down so I'll remember it 16 years from now.
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/28/17 12:11 AM
02/28/17 12:11 AM
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Posts: 17,005 Madison
BowtechDan
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Not just dishing out punishment, but they need to learn to work for something. What are their chores?
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: Spottedbass]
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02/28/17 01:52 AM
02/28/17 01:52 AM
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Posts: 889 North Alabama
yelkca280
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While I agree with what you are saying mostly, since when is it the educators fault that today's parents will not discipline? Kids need discipline and they need structure there is no doubt. But for you to put your blame on teachers is not fair. Not to mention teachers can and do discipline but there is zero reinforcement at home.
The problem today is parents are not parenting and are scared to be the bad guy. A lot of parents today expect teachers to parent for them for 7 hrs a day, then when they are home that parent is their friend. I was not clear. Not blaming the teacher. My wife is a teacher and this is how she says teachers are instructed to handle punishment. It's the way the "book" says to do it. It bleeds into my house. What am getting at is That this is how our kids are being felt with at school when you wonder wtf is going on with your kids head.
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/28/17 02:25 AM
02/28/17 02:25 AM
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Irishguy
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I used to think I knew how to raise kids until I raised 5 of them.
I know it's popular in certain circle to simply say, "You need to tear their ass up!" but in my experience that has not always worked. Children are little people and as such are all different from one another as you and I. Which, in my experience, means they all require different approaches.
We have had two, my stepson who my wife adopted at 3 years old from a really bad home life, and my youngest daughter who is simply very strong willed, who we "wore their asses out" when they needed it and loved them when we felt they needed it. However apparently they needed something else that we as parents overlooked because they still have had difficulties as adults.
My oldest son, was never super strong willed, just kind of a follower and always seemed to be hanging out with the wrong crowd and getting into stupid situations. He had a good heart and was a fairly good boy, in that he was never belligerent to me and always gave me a hug and we could hang out and talk. Well if you know me you know his whole sad story recently. Apparently corporal punishment didn't work in this case, because I never "spared the rod" with him either.
My oldest daughter is also very strong willed, outspoken, high strung and vivacious. She has been though a lot as well as the other's including the death of her mother from brain cancer. I was more of a hippy and a free spirit when I had her, and I can never recall giving her a spanking. She turned out fine and is a very successful young woman who makes good money working for a group of doctors and is highly valued in her field. She also has given me three wonderful grandchildren.
My youngest son was nicknamed "The Golden Boy" when he was little because he was never a "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Look at Meeeeee..." kind of kid and could just sit quietly for hours playing legos or trucks by himself. He's always been a good student, a good son, caring for others, etc... All this despite going through a traumatic divorce with his mother and me and then her running off and not seeing him for over a year when he was just 7 years old. I raised him as a single parent for several years before I met Mrs. Irish and we got married. The only trouble he has ever been in was when he has been swept up with some stupid crap one of his older brother's enticed him into, and that that was extremely rare. In most cases he has apparently used them as an example of what not to do. He is an honor student, earned a scholarship to college, helps around the house, doesn't complain, and is simply a great kid. I have never given him a spanking either. Ever.
My point with this whole, long post is that there are simply not fast and hard rules in parenting, like "You need to wear their asses out." It would be great if life was that easy, but it's not. Parenting requires love above all, then understanding, hugs, positive affirmation, then and only then on the rare occasion that they need it, discipline. And if you do the first things correctly, you may not need the latter.
Last edited by Irishguy; 02/28/17 02:30 AM.
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Re: Punishment of kids! Where did old school go?
[Re: yelkca280]
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02/28/17 02:49 AM
02/28/17 02:49 AM
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Posts: 6,154 Clay-Trussville area
Big Al
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One problem that tends to be prevalent in many marriages today is that there is vey little discussion about discipline of children even before the marriage occurs and children are born. If a couple receives counseling before marriage, this should be a big part of the discussion along with finances. No counseling, the couple needs to talk about both and be on the same page. If they are not in agreement on discipline, there will be trouble ahead in the marriage, and children pick up on disagreements between parents, and then play them only causing more problems.
I could go on and on about what the Bible says and all, but the main problem this day and time is selfishness. Many dad's are not involved in their children's lives. They want to be out doing what they want to do instead of being the godly dad that is outlined in the Bible. Leave the kids to mom, school teachers, Sunday School teachers, etc. why I go out and enjoy my life. Heck, I deserve it after working 40 or 40+ hours a week. I know because I at one time was caught up in it. Fortunately, God showed me my way was in error of His Word. Mothers have an absolutely extreme effect on their children. She loves them pretty much more than anyone other than Christ Himself. But, with as much love and care that a mother can give, she cannot replace a loving and caring father. A dad who accepts and lives as a godly example to his children, and makes sacrifices for his family, will set the tone of the rest of his children's lives. Yeah, there will always be the prodigals, but if the dad has done his job, those prodigals will return if they don't destroy themselves during their wayward years. And if that happens, a dad has the satisfaction of knowing he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord.
Men in our country today should be very saddened by the fact that dad's have underperformed and have not taken the role of responsibility given to them. There are some very good dad's out there, but unfortunately, many more have let women and others usurp their position of authority in the home or they're just not present in the home. Way too many children run our homes today. Men need to step up and lead their families; not as a ruler, but as a loving father like our Father in Heaven. Just like our Father in Heaven disciplines us out of love, we should do so to our children because we love them. Plus, we need to remember to love our wives as Christ loves the church. A great example to our children in coming years when they will be choosing a husband or wife.
The old cliché, "Expect nothing and you'll get nothing", holds very true to raising our children. We need to get back to honoring the lines of authority given in God's Word. And we must teach them to our children, and expect them to have respect for us and others. Folks, the children of today are the leaders of tomorrow. What is going to happen to our country if we sit idly by and not accept our responsibilities as dads? As the Apostle Paul would say, "Heaven forbid".
Last edited by Big Al; 02/28/17 02:52 AM.
"Said I never had much use for one; never said I didn't know how to use it". -Matthew Quigley in "Quigley Down Under"
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