I definitely agree with you guys on stand access as I know on a couple of my stands it could be problematic and I have really tried to minimize it. I put in a low water crossing in my creek and got my neighbor to allow me access along his north line which really helped I think, but I have a creek running diagonally through the place that makes things very difficult when it is up, which it was most of the trip.I actually used my climber this year for the first time in a long time, usually go with ladders or boxes, but I really wanted to get in the thicker woods and try something different I hoped would get better results.I did shoot my only buck this year out of it in an area I located, which was pretty satisfying. Thanks for the replies, there is a lot of great info on these forums.