I probably want load much 9mm becuse its cheap but in my glock19 i can't seem to find anything it likes. Just shoots all over the place.. Mainly my rifles becuse im tired of not finding ammo my rifles like in factory ammo.. 7Mags are not cheap to buy a 40 50 dollar box of shells just to see if they group decent. That's what my plans are to buy collars for each set of dies so when i chance everything is set and ready to go.