Now, I haven't rifle hunted in many years (minus the t'giving weekend fam gathering). I've been bow only forever! "My brother volunteered to take my 11 and 12 year old grandsons and let them kill their first deer with a gun and I told him I was going to teach them how to deer hunt when they could pull the legal poundage to bow hunt." That's what my comment was about. IMO, we should be trying to keep as much excitement as possible in all aspects of hunting for our youth.