I've never smoked a cig but I have dipped for 20 of my 34 years. I decided yesterday that I'd try to stop. I went to the vape shop this morning and I haven't had an urge for a dip yet. I got the 12 whatever nicotine in the RY4 juice. I don't know the brand but I'll look if you want me to. They make it in Boaz. I hope it works and that I can put it down as well.