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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1953933
12/14/16 09:05 AM
12/14/16 09:05 AM
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Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,502 Cullman,AL
turkey_killer
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8 point
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Posts: 1,502
Cullman,AL
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I'd get a compound bow. In that price range, you'd be better off buying one used already rigged out and ready to go. You can get one a couple years old for peanuts compared to buying a new one. Some of the good brands, like Hoyt, will have a "lower end" fully rigged package deal that is a good bow, but I'm not sure they'd be that cheap. Maybe 5-600. You could get a really good used bow for 3-400, just make sure to check it out really good (and shoot it) before buying
Last edited by turkey_killer; 12/14/16 09:07 AM.
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1953944
12/14/16 09:10 AM
12/14/16 09:10 AM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 31,681 Slidell, La
perchjerker
Freak of Nature
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Lots of variables do you want a quick fix or to be a bowhunter ? a bow requires more work and dedication, meaning practice. I'm a bowhunter and will not use an x-gun. Bowhunting is about being quiet and getting close to animals. For your price range you can get a used bow with the works for that amount. I shoot a Mathews, but there are several great brands. If you would like some help on bowhunting send me a pm. I'd be happy to give you advise on getting started. Killing a deer with a bow gives a high i never experienced with a gun. Oh stop the copenhagen, that crap causes cancer. don't put yourself or your family thru that. Merry Christmas
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
[Re: ParrotHead89]
#1954041
12/14/16 10:15 AM
12/14/16 10:15 AM
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Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,258 Demopolis, Al
FlyinRN
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8 point
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,258
Demopolis, Al
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There is a good looking Matthews for sale in Classifieds. 400 ready to go. That Mathews Drenaline is down to $350 loaded and ready to hunt.
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1954099
12/14/16 11:02 AM
12/14/16 11:02 AM
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Posts: 191 madison county, AL
ego6baller
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3 point
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Posts: 191
madison county, AL
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I've hunted with a bow 1 time. It was 20 years ago and I was 13. I've been toying with buying a bow or xbow for awhile now. Mainly to give me more public land hunting opportunities. I've seen some older threads on bows vs xbows, but not quite as specific as my questions:
a) For a beginner, which would be better in the < $400 range. b) What are some trust worthy brands for each? For a beginner. c) Have any of you hunted Swan Creek for deer? I've squirrel hunted and seen some sign, but never actually talked to a person who has actively hunted it for deer.
The "if it matters" knowledge list: -I'm smart enough to learn mechanics of operation...I hope -I'm a large, strong guy so I don't think draw weight matters, but I'm wrong a lot. -I live in the middle of Madison County, so I don't have many options for public land during the week. -I have $414.56 to spend on bow/xbow, arrows/bolts, heads, & Copenhagen -I have no idea of the pros and cons. Most people I talk to have both types and urge me to spend more than I can afford. A- A bow is harder to learn and get use to. Practice, practice. But man is a bow fun and satisfying kills out there. Xbow is more like a rifle than anything else. expectantly with a good scope +50 yard shoots are very possible. B- I started with a bow from Craigslist for super cheap. Missions by Mathews makes some great ones. But it is personal preference. So shoot all you can to see what you like. C- I have not personally hunted swan creek because it is only open for about 2 weeks. I am at Wheeler most of the time. Where it is bow only for all but 2 weeks. I would recommend going to Custom Archery in Huntsville and see George. Very knowledgeable and not a pressure salesman kind of guy. -draw weight 60 lbs should be the max but that is personal. Main reason I feel that way is the FPS you gain at 20 yards is less than 0.007 of second in impact time (30 ft divided by 300/280 fps). Also lower draw is quieter. Better to be slower and quite than fast and loud with a bow. It's easier to pull, easier to hold, and easier on the shoulder. Well I guess that's about all. I love my bow and that's what I use 90% of the time.
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1954173
12/14/16 12:17 PM
12/14/16 12:17 PM
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Posts: 2,353 North Alabama
robinhedd
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8 point
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Posts: 2,353
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There's no deer on Swan Creek WMA!
"Guess I just got too much Mathews in me!"
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1954237
12/14/16 01:41 PM
12/14/16 01:41 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 29,055 Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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Fosters, Alabama, USA
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If you pee standing up, get a regular bow. If it'll fit you, there's a helluva deal on a complete Mathews Drenalin package in the classifieds.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1954243
12/14/16 01:45 PM
12/14/16 01:45 PM
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Posts: 630 Slapout AL
junglemedic
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4 point
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Posts: 630
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For God's sake don't get a XBow. The Bow hunters on here will rip you a new one! LOL
" I don't kill innocent animals, only the ones who look guilty"
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1954282
12/14/16 02:16 PM
12/14/16 02:16 PM
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Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 31,681 Slidell, La
perchjerker
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50 yd shots ? Thats not getting close. concentrate on 25 yds or less. thew closer the better. I didn't get any Pm from you.
Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!
If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
[Re: Spot]
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12/15/16 05:25 AM
12/15/16 05:25 AM
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Posts: 21,456 HSV AL
jmudler
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It is simple. Do you or will you practice enough to master a bow? If the answer is no, then a 50 yard shot is out of the question, buy a xbow.
50 yards is a long shot with either IMO.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: Rookie help. Bow vs XBow and Swan Creek WMA
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#1955237
12/15/16 09:35 AM
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Posts: 20,285 Northport, AL
GomerPyle
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another vote for a bow. I've never hunted with a crossbow, but I have hunted with a bow and have killed 1 with it (shot at 2, killed 1). The rush of adrenaline I got killing that little buck with my bow was 2nd only to having a turkey, that I didn't know even existed, gobble about 80yds behind me. While I can't say for certain, I suspect the adrenaline rush of killing one with a crossbow wouldn't be quite the same, but maybe I'm wrong.
get a good used bow, either here or craigslist. get proficient out to 30yds. If you want to practice beyond 30, then by all means go for it, that just makes the shorter shots that much easier, but plan on keeping real-life hunting shots inside 30 if at all possible.
either get a range finder or, step off distances to multiple points so you have known distances to judge a deer by.
WEAR. A. HARNESS. they're cheap, heck people occasionally give them away on here.
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1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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