Well dang. Some of y'all got some sand in your drawers.
Either the the loggers I've dealt with are the worlds best or ya'lls are the worst.
we've had good luck for the most part. People need to realize when the trees are cut there will not be leaves and coverage for existing roads and they will wash out much easier. Its not the loggers fault.
As far as leaving trash and tops in streams that is unacceptable.