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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937427
12/02/16 04:52 AM
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somewhere around 112.
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Exactly my feelings as well WB. That's the reason I hunt public land as much as I do.


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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Geno] #1937444
12/02/16 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: Geno
Originally Posted By: WildlifeBiologist
During my tenure at Academy, I attended a lot of hunts hosted by manufacturers like Strike King and Mossy Oak. The Mossy Oak boys do it right and still hunt the way I like to hunt. But I was totally turned off by a hunt hosted by StealthCam at the Nooner Ranch in Hondo, TX. Sammy Nooner is the first deer breeder to pay over $1Million for a breeder buck. I asked ahead of time and was told that portions of the ranch were free range and other portions high fenced. So I accepted. Turned out to be all high fence. Some "hunting" enclosures were as small at 100 acres. Total canned hunt in my opinion. I did the gracious guest routine and hung around camp, but no way was I shooting anybody's domesticated livestock under the guise of hunting. One of the invitees shot a 170" buck and StealthCam gladly paid the $9,600 trophy fee. A group of 180-class bucks were feeding behind the lodge while Sammy and I sat on the back porch. He said, "Don't you want to kill a buck like that? You are welcome to." I replied, "Yes sir I do want to kill a buck like that, but only if it is under free range fair chase conditions." To this day I have no appetite for Outdoor Channel shows built around this kind of "hunt."


You have better self control than I do. thumbup

I would have shot one and let them pay for it. I might even name it cow or something.


Then there was the hunt I attended at Ray Murski's ranch in Meridian, TX. His ranch was just about 6,000 acres high fenced. I accepted the invite based on my opinion that it would be fair chase hunting that size area. Well, by daylight the next morning I'm looking at 38 racked bucks in a greenfield. I turn to the guide and ask, "does every deer on this ranch have a tag in its ear?" He says, "Oh yeah. Every one of these deer is pen raised and then released." I asked if there was any place where I could hunt a free range deer, and he said yes. He took me to an unfenced area of the ranch and I killed a nice 10 point that is considered inferior by their standards, but I was glad to have harvested him on my terms. It turned out to be win-win because Ray graciously accommodated me and I didn't shoot his pen raised livestock.

Last edited by WildlifeBiologist; 12/02/16 05:02 AM.

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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: slippinlipjr] #1937450
12/02/16 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: slippinlipjr
Exactly my feelings as well WB. That's the reason I hunt public land as much as I do.


I don't see what public land has to do with not hunting high fence

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937459
12/02/16 05:08 AM
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Somebody call or text him and get his azz back on here to defend himself like a man


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937487
12/02/16 05:19 AM
12/02/16 05:19 AM
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You had me till you tried to tell us you used a 7-08. Everybody on Aldeer knows it takes a minimum of 7mag to kill a deer.


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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937500
12/02/16 05:24 AM
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Pics of his mom or this didn't happen

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937516
12/02/16 05:30 AM
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Free Range - Where the deer and the antelope play
Small Pen - Bottle fed pen for the fawns
Big Pen - Where the daddy deer range

Just how big are these pens?

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: MTeague] #1937529
12/02/16 05:38 AM
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Moundville, Al
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Originally Posted By: MTeague
Originally Posted By: Dkhargroves
Y'all didn't run him off already did y'all??? Least he lasted a little longer than timber. I'll gladly take credit for being the first to mention it turning out like Timbers post so I'll go ahead and add his big pen comment quote to my sig rofl


Better back up and punt....SuperSpike gets the credit on this one.

Originally Posted By: SuperSpike
I sent him a text. I think they have to be processed through timber2 before they can be released.

lol
Well I was really joking around with that but unfortunately this turned out bad for him. I wish guys on here would just be straight with their kills and they won't have to go into hiding because of public humiliation. I'm happy for the guy on his kill regardless but now it's going to be hard for him to enjoy the moment because of stretching the truth. Just do like me, don't kill big deer and you won't have to worry about all of this. grin

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: MC21] #1937557
12/02/16 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: MC21


Is this in your shower???

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937565
12/02/16 06:02 AM
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We're gonna need to pull a vile of his blood and test for P.E.S's. I bet he test positive for performance enhancing storyiods.

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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937566
12/02/16 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: Johntravis89
The free range side is absolutely beautiful!! I was sitting on a mountain side towards the top part and you look down into the bottom.


Originally Posted By: 3FFarms
Originally Posted By: StoneMan
Killed at my good buddy's place in Pelham called Double Mountain preserve. He has high fence and free range. Really good genes grant and kent upton have gotten put together at their farm.


So was this a high fence or free range kill?


Originally Posted By: StoneMan
Free range


Originally Posted By: Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??


This is the dumbest crap I've ever read. Congratulations on killing a buck in a barrel in a high fence free range pen. You are the great white hunter. More like the great white hype.

Did you rattle and call him up? As in shaking a bucket of feed, not using rattling antlers and holllering "C'moan boy, heyuh, heyuh? That's how I call the cows in our high (65") fence cattle operation.

We have a small high fence operation where the head catch is, then a large free range high fence operation where the pasture is. For $5000 I can guarantee you a shot at a piebald Simmental bull. He's currently in the small high fence breeding stud pen, but I'll put him in the large 100 acre high fence area so it will be sporting when you shoot him.


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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937584
12/02/16 06:17 AM
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So did he pay to kill the deer? Or was he just invited to hunt as a guest? I can't imagine the just let anyone shoot their breeder.

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937594
12/02/16 06:24 AM
12/02/16 06:24 AM
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I doubt that is a breeder buck. I've been to a couple of these places, and I'm sure they all do it different, but the ones I've been to cut the antlers off breeder bucks to prevent them from injuring each other. (And to keep people from shooting them illegally ) P.S. never hunted at a place like this.

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937608
12/02/16 06:41 AM
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I had not read up any more on this post since early yesterday. WOW has it turned out to be quite an entertaining read.

Where in Alabama has anyone had the same mature buck or doe come by their stand (within 100 yards) multiple times in less than an hour. That deer must have thought he was either in a photo shoot, or a petting zoo.

Gott'em with the old neck shot. Corn AND BREEDER PELLETS were scattered everywhere.

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937626
12/02/16 06:58 AM
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Dang don't get on and check what's going on and missed all the fun.


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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937630
12/02/16 07:00 AM
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awesome deer

Re: Monster 14 point [Re: 257wbymag] #1937658
12/02/16 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I bet he has a pet cat too.


I'm just now catching up, and after all that, I can't quit laughing about a pet cat rofl


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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: BrentM] #1937677
12/02/16 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: BrentM



I bet corn flies everywhere with a neck shot on a free range big pen bruiser


He's recycling the corn, going green in the big pen. thumbup Johnny



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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Johntravis89] #1937686
12/02/16 07:32 AM
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He's obviously using the poultry farmer definition of free range. It's in a pen, but the pen allows him to go outside, so it must be free range.


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Re: Monster 14 point [Re: Yelp softly] #1937688
12/02/16 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
He's obviously using the poultry farmer definition of free range. It's in a pen, but the pen allows him to go outside, so it must be free range.


I think yer on to something there.


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