I'm convinced if we were selling sno cones some of y'all would bitch about it being hot outside.

I'm convinced if the government said anything is "for the good of society" some of y'all would fall in lockstep and march right along.

they are there !!! look under terms and condition

i listed them all in another post

Not Game Check but in my opinion it makes no sense for South Alabama to have bucks only for October 15 - 24 while it is either sex for northern zones even though statewide the season goes through February 10.

Several showed up on my Iphone. I thought it was weird.

One step at a time, grasshopper, one piecemeal regulation step at a time. You can't just shove all new regulations into one basket at a time. More control and regulation must be done in a slow, step-by-step and progressive fashion through the politi ... er, scientific system.

Don't know where you've been the last 4 months, but it's been hot where I've been.

You may be on to something there Preacher, Chuck and Company didn't listen to them before GC, I'm sure they'll listen even less now.

Chuck has no choice but to listen less to them. "Company" now makes the decisions contrary to at least some of the state biologist recommendations WITH DATA.

They want you to kill your limit earlier is all I can figure.

So you do not support the regulations I mentioned? [/quote]

You paint with a broad brush you get answers with a broad brush. Did you miss the micro-managing part? The regulations that provide the minimal intervention are always best, which is what appeared to be what the DCNR used to try to do to allow the individual landowner/lessor/individual to manage their own land. When the QDMA fad/crowd/"trophy hunter"/TV watchers got to crying then by golly it had to change and the State can do that the bestest because they are the bestest at controlling things by force, but don't let that get in the way of rampant laws, rules and regulations that have no end. There seems to be another thread about why hunting license sales are going down, but don't worry more laws, rules and regulations can solve that. I know, I know being self responsible and a good steward just doesn't fit in the gated forced society community standards.

Another problem I have lies in the fact that the land that I hunt on has been managed pretty intensively for the last 25 years. We really worked at getting the population in check and maintaining standards on what was shot. It is a pretty healthy herd right now and that was done voluntarily. Now our data is going to get thrown in with data from other lands that were poorly managed or not managed at all to be used to determine what is best for where I hunt. After 30 years, I think myself and the landowner are pretty good judges of what needs to happen on his land. We even get some pretty good pointers from some prominent biologists.

Don't get me wrong in thinking I'm completely against this. I'm not but there are concerns that I have that I would have liked to see addressed BEFORE it was crammed down our throats. Personally, if we are going to have buck limits, I think we should have a tagging system with stiff fines for not affixing a tag prior to moving the deer.

I don't like the Game App. For the simple reason of them wanting access to my pictures and the location of my phone...

Game check will do nothing but keep the honest people honest....if they were poaching before and not righting it down on there harvest record sheet then they are going to not call it in to game check either....the people that kill more than 3 bucks are not going to call those in either. So you get 48 hrs to get it checked in via phone call or phone app....say you shoot a small to average buck not a big bragging buck and you take it home and do your own processing ,no one knows you didn't call it in so you don't. this type of stuff will happen . this is why this will only effect the honest hunters and most likely result in changes to our hunting regs based on false results.

After going through the numbers that the statistics show for harvested this season as of now I came up with a 35 +/- number of harvest not showing up on the game check.

How'd you do that?

Good points about how QDM has been around so long.


Most hunters have been doing QDM now for many many years.

And the 3 buck limit has been very beneficial.

So there is really no *scientific* need for game check.

It is just more government interference and control thanks to power hungry control freak government BUREAUCRATS.

SWAG

its due to the south having later conception dates. And the babies being younger when season starts. If the momma was taken the first week the babies had a lower chance of survival. Thats why season was delayed last year. This year they started it were it use to start and made it buck only.

True. Also, they will never get the seasons scheduled the way they should be.