Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by jawbone
Heard some details today on the incident. I won't go into many details as that is not my place to do that, but I will say that if what I'm told is true, there is no doubt this officer is being offered up as a sacrifice to appease the BLM crowd. The investigating agency (ABI) wanted to take the case to the Grand Jury, but the local DA is the one that insisted on an arrest.

There is a great size difference between the two with the officer being much smaller.

The man was not walking home from work or his girlfriend's at 3AM. He had been at a shot house playing cards.

The officer had exhausted all his means of non lethal force (taser and pepper spray) and for lack of a better term, had gotten his ass whipped and was lying on the ground when the man ran on a porch and retrieved a metal paint roller extension pole and was coming back to the officer. The officer shot him 5 times, which is probably the justification for the charge. (overkill).

No video as the vidmic's battery was dead. The mayor acknowledges that he could have gotten the camera batteries with a longer life but he went the cheap route.

It will all come out in the end. I hope justice is served and political pressure or threats of riots are not a part of the final decision.


It doesn't matter if the victim had been at a shot house playing cards. He had a right to. And a right to walk down his own street to go to his own home.

The cop should have never got out of his car.
The cop should have never STARTED a fight with the man.
The cop should have never laid hands on the man.
The cop violated the CONSTITUTION by laying hands on the man and trying to make an ILLEGAL arrest of the man.
The cop was immature, inexperienced and poorly trained.
The cop didn't know what the law is about probable cause to make an arrest (hint: you have to have a crime!)(witnessed by the cop).

Yeah, we don't know all the facts yet, but we do know the COP started the entire incident. The police chief stated repeatedly that there was "a small altercation and that Mr. Gunn RAN AWAY." The COP started the altercation. If he was a mature, responsible well trained cop who knew the law this never would have happened.

The DA did the right thing - from numerous different perspectives - including the fact that if there had been no cop involved the shooter would have been arrested on a murder charge. And arresting the cop now actually might be something that saves his life in the mean time with all the BLM insane thug vigilantes out there.



dude..no offense..but your an arsehole.

Can I come beat on you with a pole? you gonna lay there and let me? Or are you going to shoot me when I try? bet I know the answer.

Damn man..do the job for a freakin week and get off the BLM bandwagon condemning these officers that for some reason..when the truth comes out turn out to be freakin innocent.

Whats with your anti police sentiment? These guys do a thankless job for low pay risking their asses so you can rest safely in your home. Give it a break.
Im so fed up with this anti police bs then the cops turns out to be trying just to save his dam life. I got an idea..why dont you go patrol montgomery at 230 am. Then..and only then will your opinion matter to me.


Outdooor, your post was very immature and inappropriate. I would never get on here and call someone names like that. Not cool or mature adult at all.

There is no "anti police sentiment" whatsoever.

I am a conservative Christian law and order man. And a Christian ethicist - and a Constitutionalist. I am giving my unbiased opinion as opposed to automatically siding with the police against a black man as most on here are doing. **Automatically** siding with the police against a black man who is walking down his own street near his own house is racism. Racism is sin.

Respectfully.


Sorry I called you an arsehole.
But you didnt answer my question.
If youre armed and someone is going to hit you with a painters pole...what are YOU going to do?
Pretty simple question.

Also , It just seems to me you are making a lot of assumptions and judgements on the officers behavior even if getting out of his vehicle. Which is silly..

Most police dont question you from their vehicle. It is not safe if the person is a criminal.

The officers holstered gun is hard to get to, and out if the situation goes south, and someone has a dominant position by being standing outside your car while you are in it.

Also, it is hard to open the door and get out if you need to as the person now has control of your door as they are outside, standing, and have more leverage.

Most police will exit their car to question a suspect for those reasons.
And if there were a lot of burglaries, increased patrols, the officer easily could have thought this person might be a burgler.
He would have been deficient in not questioning him.