That's exactly why I posted what I did yesterday. The DA of Montgomery county has a political agenda and saw an opportunity to get some TV time and throw the white officer to the blm lynch crowd.

So Gunn, for instance, could have just kept on walking and the office shouldn't go after him without probable cause. I guess the big question is what would constitute probable cause.

So Gunn, for instance, could have just kept on walking and the office shouldn't go after him without probable cause. I guess the big question is what would constitute probable cause

No, you don't have to stop and answer questions

Will be interesting to hear/see all the details when they come out.

On a side note,this BLM and us black folks are untouchable (By white people) is getting really phucking old.

Not going to get into the MPD situation, but instead ask about this above stated by Jawbone.

I may not have to stop and answer questions if a police officer asks me to talk with him, or "come here" or something else. And as he said, if there is no suspicion that I have done anything then I shouldn't be detained.

But I'll guarantee you a brazillion dollars that if I'm walking down a street anytime of the day or night and a police officer wants to talk with me and I refuse, walk away, decline, tell him to FO or anything else OTHER than stopping and talking with him, he/she will not go peacefully away and say, "Well, that's his right to walk away."

That's unrealistic. Walking away and ignoring an officer's request -- even if legal -- will put many if not almost all of them on "Hmm, what's up with him?" alert and things will get worse. Guaranteed.

Yeah, I may be legally OK saying "No" or ignoring them but if I walk away, or run, or anything else then things aren't going to go well.

Not going to get into the MPD situation, but instead ask about this above stated by Jawbone.

I may not have to stop and answer questions if a police officer asks me to talk with him, or "come here" or something else. And as he said, if there is no suspicion that I have done anything then I shouldn't be detained.

But I'll guarantee you a brazillion dollars that if I'm walking down a street anytime of the day or night and a police officer wants to talk with me and I refuse, walk away, decline, tell him to FO or anything else OTHER than stopping and talking with him, he/she will not go peacefully away and say, "Well, that's his right to walk away."

That's unrealistic. Walking away and ignoring an officer's request -- even if legal -- will put many if not almost all of them on "Hmm, what's up with him?" alert and things will get worse. Guaranteed.

Yeah, I may be legally OK saying "No" or ignoring them but if I walk away, or run, or anything else then things aren't going to go well.

That's where IMO the officer has to have great discretion, experience and not flip out if someone doesn't want to engage. OR better yet, that's when a 23-yo white officer in a questionable neighborhood needs to have an experienced partner with him, if possible.

What a mess.

I just can't understand why an officer, any officer would be dispatched to an area that has recently been a target of over 25 breakins since 1/1/2016. Two cops per unit and no one would be having this conversation. His split second actions may have been a poor decision but the thought out decisions of his superiors to not have two man units in a high crime is inexcusable.

With that said, the officers attorney stated that he is confident that the facts will show that the officer followed proper protocol in his actions. I am sorry for the loss of life to the victims family but all of this could have been avoided if he had just cooperated with the officer that stopped him. Answer his questions, put down the painters pole and allow him to do his job, which is to protect and serve.

Instead, my guess is that he tried to elude the officer and ran. The officer pursued him and the altercation began. The victim was MUCH BIGGER than the officer and at some point in the struggle the officer made an instant decision and felt that his life was being threatened and used deadly force. The initial autopsy showed that he was shot 5 times, once in the wrist, once in the arm and once in the leg and then twice in the chest. The pathologist noted that some of entry wounds MAY indicate that he was in a defensive position when the bullet entered his body, but to me, it would be difficult to tell if I was raising my arm or hand to strike you or if I was putting up my hand to defend myself. The investigation will determine the facts and hopefully the truth will be revealed.

The kids father also served on the force for his entire life, so he is a second generation officer. His father has just recently been diagnosed with Alzheimer's so this family needs prayers. They damn sure don't need a group of political activist issuing death threats and putting up wanted posters on FB.

My wife and I were discussing it the other night. Low pay, having to deal with thugs and miscreants that want to kill you every day, dealing with domestic situations that should be handled by what most consider "adults". All of those things, and they try to hang you when an incident occurs like this one.

No way. Hayul naw. Ain't happening.

Heard some details today on the incident. I won't go into many details as that is not my place to do that, but I will say that if what I'm told is true, there is no doubt this officer is being offered up as a sacrifice to appease the BLM crowd. The investigating agency (ABI) wanted to take the case to the Grand Jury, but the local DA is the one that insisted on an arrest.

Your assessment is very good from my understanding of the facts.

I respect the guys doing the job, but think they are crazy for voluntarily going into it.