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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: truedouble]
#1661892
02/23/16 09:39 AM
02/23/16 09:39 AM
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BamaGuitarDude
12 point
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either way, there are some nice bucks posted in this thread  no doubt about it
ALDeer physics: for every opinion, there's an equal & opposite opinion
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Buckedoutagain3]
#1662009
02/23/16 11:10 AM
02/23/16 11:10 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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Matt, is there an average rack size or sort of a window of average? Like, 14-17 inches is average for main beam length, brow average is x-inches, Gee-beams are X-inches, etc.? Anything like that?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Buckedoutagain3]
#1662036
02/23/16 11:31 AM
02/23/16 11:31 AM
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Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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Got one that's 25" and several 23-24 ish.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Clem]
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02/23/16 04:23 PM
02/23/16 04:23 PM
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Right behind you
Mbrock
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Right behind you
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Matt, is there an average rack size or sort of a window of average? Like, 14-17 inches is average for main beam length, brow average is x-inches, Gee-beams are X-inches, etc.? Anything like that?
It varies by soil region. For mature bucks 4 + years of age, without pouring through thousands of individual entries, I'd say the statewide average on main beam length would hover between 18-21" depending on what area of the state you are in. Longer beams being more common in areas of higher soil fertility. Inside spread averages range between 13"-16". Number of points is going to hover around 8-9 points. We don't measure tine length as that is usually not an indicator that leads you to any useful information. I'll say in northwest AL in the upper coastal plains or plateau region averages from the DMAP properties I work with are 14.5" for inside spread, 20.185" on main beams, and an average of 9.1 points, give or take a few 1/8ths.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Mbrock]
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02/23/16 04:33 PM
02/23/16 04:33 PM
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Boxes Cove
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Matt, is there an average rack size or sort of a window of average? Like, 14-17 inches is average for main beam length, brow average is x-inches, Gee-beams are X-inches, etc.? Anything like that?
It varies by soil region. For mature bucks 4 + years of age, without pouring through thousands of individual entries, I'd say the statewide average on main beam length would hover between 18-21" depending on what area of the state you are in. Longer beams being more common in areas of higher soil fertility. Inside spread averages range between 13"-16". Number of points is going to hover around 8-9 points. We don't measure tine length as that is usually not an indicator that leads you to any useful information. I'll say in northwest AL in the upper coastal plains or plateau region averages from the DMAP properties I work with are 14.5" for inside spread, 20.185" on main beams, and an average of 9.1 points, give or take a few 1/8ths. Matt, to me inside spread would be the measurement that isn't useful, spread is nothing but air, air is everywhere.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: 2Dogs]
#1662434
02/23/16 04:46 PM
02/23/16 04:46 PM
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Inside spread is indeed only air but does add to a score. But I have never had a deer scored. I do believe antler traits vary through out the state and all over for that matter. A wide buck looks good but a heavy rack looks good too. I do think mass tells more about age than spread. I've seen 3yo with 20"+ and 7yo with 12" inside. Any base over 5" says alot as does 20"+ mains.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Buckedoutagain3]
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02/23/16 05:00 PM
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Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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I've got one with a 24" main beam and several at at least 20".
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: top cat]
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02/23/16 05:08 PM
02/23/16 05:08 PM
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ArmPit of the south
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Booner
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Inside spread is indeed only air but does add to a score. But I have never had a deer scored. I do believe antler traits vary through out the state and all over for that matter. A wide buck looks good but a heavy rack looks good too. I do think mass tells more about age than spread. I've seen 3yo with 20"+ and 7yo with 12" inside. Any base over 5" says alot as does 20"+ mains. I got a question for you Top Cat, Is that buck you killed this year one of your best ever? I'v seen that wall of fame of yours and its quit impressive.... ... Just curious as to where he ranks compared to some of your other ones, Congrats on the kill... 
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: top cat]
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02/23/16 05:16 PM
02/23/16 05:16 PM
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Boxes Cove
2Dogs
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Inside spread is indeed only air but does add to a score. Lets say we have two clean 5X5s taping 150" exactly . One is 16 " inside spread ( air) and the other is 24" inside spread ( air), which really has the bigger antlers?
Last edited by 2Dogs; 02/23/16 05:19 PM.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: 2Dogs]
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02/23/16 05:52 PM
02/23/16 05:52 PM
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Bay Minette, AL
scrubbuck
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Inside spread is indeed only air but does add to a score. Lets say we have two clean 5X5s taping 150" exactly . One is 16 " inside spread ( air) and the other is 24" inside spread ( air), which really has the bigger antlers? Man's got a point...
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: 2Dogs]
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02/23/16 05:56 PM
02/23/16 05:56 PM
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top cat
Freak of Nature
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Inside spread is indeed only air but does add to a score. Lets say we have two clean 5X5s taping 150" exactly . One is 16 " inside spread ( air) and the other is 24" inside spread ( air), which really has the bigger antlers? Kinda like asking which weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of lead. In most cases the smaller inside spread has more antler growth. Kinda easy if folks understand scoreing. But the lower scoreing buck may appear larger depicted in certin photos.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Mbrock]
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02/24/16 07:17 AM
02/24/16 07:17 AM
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Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
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Prattville, Alabama
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On that note, basal circumference average up here is between 4.25-4.75"
Over 5" and you done killed somebody. The 8 point I posted pics of has 5-4/8" and 5-2/8" H1 measurements.
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer."
Jimmy G.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: Buckedoutagain3]
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02/24/16 11:01 AM
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Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Not sure what the measurements are but this guy probably has some of the longer main beams on a deer that I've killed. I got him opening day of bow season that year. Shot him at about 4 steps from the base of my ladder stand with an evil crossbow. 
Last edited by CNC; 02/24/16 11:01 AM.
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Re: Whats your longest main beams
[Re: DeerNutz0U812_]
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02/24/16 12:20 PM
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top cat
Freak of Nature
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Inside spread is indeed only air but does add to a score. But I have never had a deer scored. I do believe antler traits vary through out the state and all over for that matter. A wide buck looks good but a heavy rack looks good too. I do think mass tells more about age than spread. I've seen 3yo with 20"+ and 7yo with 12" inside. Any base over 5" says alot as does 20"+ mains. I got a question for you Top Cat, Is that buck you killed this year one of your best ever? I'v seen that wall of fame of yours and its quit impressive.... ... Just curious as to where he ranks compared to some of your other ones, Congrats on the kill... He ranks right up there. So much so my wife (for the first time) has green lighted adding one instead of having to replace one. Thinking of a wall pedestal mount and putting him kinda up under the top center.
Last edited by top cat; 02/24/16 12:20 PM.
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
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