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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661059
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Cook Islands don't sound too bad

Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: JAT50] #1661063
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Originally Posted By: JAT50
As crappy as we may think the US at times it is 1000 times better than any country on earth. You haven't seen liberal until you go to Europe or Canada.


This. We're so spoiled we don't even know it. Now, that's not saying this country is what it's supposed to be, but it STILL BEATS THE HELL out of working, raising a family, and living anywhere else.


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: JAT50] #1661069
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As crappy as we may think the US at times it is 1000 times better than any country on earth. You haven't seen liberal until you go to Europe or Canada.



This in spades.

A few years ago we went on a cruise trip with our daughter's dance crew and one of the stops was in St. Petersburg, Russia. Going through their customs area made me feel creepy and damned glad to be American. I was glad to get out of there.

America has its problems but we're the best country in the world .


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661118
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I don't disagree, that right now it's the best place to live in the world. I'm talking about 15 or 30 years down the road. It could all come crumbling down pretty quickly, when you've got half the population socialized and half supporting them, with those numbers increasing and decreasing daily.

Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661132
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I've been fortunate or unfortunate enough to see a lot of the world and no place I want to live other than here. Do we have some problems, you betcha. But still better than most of the options.

Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661139
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Again, even 15 - 30 years down the road, these other places you dream of going aren't going to suddenly become "The Old USA I knew & loved". It gets bad here, it gets worse there.
Might as well saddle up and ride.


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Dustin] #1661140
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Originally Posted By: Dustin
I've been all over this big blue marble and y'all are wasting your time.
Y'all better rethink NZ. They are leftist. Socialized Medicine, Pro Homo, High Taxes and plenty of other socialist crap.
Switzerland is nice if you want to be told what to do with your money. Gun ownership is OK but ammo is another story.
Norway is the same. You can only have maybe 3 or 4 guns and when you take a dirt nap then it's up to the local authorities what happens to them.

I'm going to fall in with Fun4all on this one:

Originally Posted By: Fun4all
Probably stick around and help get rid of scum that believe my stuff is theirs.






Dustin, I haven't looked into it too much but a quick glance at their tax structure makes it appear a little less than ours. Also, if I remember correctly, in order to immigrate there and work, you have to show some sort of financials to prove you won't be a liability. Seems you have to have a skill that's in demand or open a business. They require everyone to have skin in the game. Socialized medicine is there but even that is not the full blown welfare catastrophe that they have in the UK. It isn't perfect but it seems they have very strict immigration policies and they don't allow you won't go there and be a drain on society. Here is a link to their tax structure.

https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/living-in-nz/money-tax/nz-tax-system


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661151
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They've plenty of taxes, sales tax is about 12 -15% if I recall. Schools are bad, they've got a bunch of hokie crap with minority groups and the maori. You'll have to become bi-lingual because their english ain't ours.
I've visited. Nice country, nice people but I'd rather stay and duke it out for what I have.


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Dustin] #1661154
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Originally Posted By: Dustin
They've plenty of taxes, sales tax is about 12 -15% if I recall. Schools are bad, they've got a bunch of hokie crap with minority groups and the maori. You'll have to become bi-lingual because their english ain't ours.
I've visited. Nice country, nice people but I'd rather stay and duke it out for what I have.


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661170
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I would never leave, I'm an American. I spent 24 years in service of this country. Anybody even remotely considering leaving has never spent anytime in another country. Most Americans have no idea how fortunate we are.

Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: ridgestalker] #1661185
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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661196
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I've lived in multiple foreign countries and there is no place like home for this Tennessee boy. I bleed red, white & blue........I'll take my chances here.

Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661281
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Have you traveled much outside of the US? loco


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: JA] #1661285
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Originally Posted By: JA
I would never leave, I'm an American. I spent 24 years in service of this country. Anybody even remotely considering leaving has never spent anytime in another country. Most Americans have no idea how fortunate we are.


yep


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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Fun4all] #1661312
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Originally Posted By: Fun4all
Probably stick around and help get rid of scum that believe my stuff is theirs.


Amen


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If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661323
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I am staying.......


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You don't run from a fight. I've served this country. I'll stay good or bad and try to make it a better place.

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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661393
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30 Years from now I probably won't care much what happens.....any where but in mu coffin.... wink



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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661426
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I intend to go back to one of the Carib Islands at some point but that is where I'm from. If I was looking for business or employment opportunities, NZ would be tops.

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Re: Would you leave the U.S.? (Tinfoil hat) [Re: Atoler] #1661454
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This country is about to start winning again.

Stick around bro.

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