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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: gobbler]
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12/19/15 03:47 PM
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CAB-- completely do away with it. They don't know what each individual faces in relation to what, how many, or when, nor do they G.A.S. If they did, each license buyer at least would know the name of the person representing them on the board. Cronyism at it's finest. It's super to read about who these guys have an appointment to speak to. The CAB should be speaking to the hunters and fishermen. He!! with the uppidy organizations. This segment of our system is the worst of all.
Who would you hand over the lawmaking to - the Legislature or the Conservation Commissioner (an appointed position and quite transitory)? I agree with gob. I don't know what the answer is but you won't find it in the legislature , they'll screw it up for sure! And then there's the Commish, every time the guv changes get ready for changes and lots of them.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: ford150man]
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12/19/15 04:28 PM
12/19/15 04:28 PM
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t123winters
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I like the way it is now,I remember a few years back when we just could not shoot any does,but we could shoot a buck every day of the season...I was part of that slaughter(Lord forgive me) I have killed as many as 23 legal bucks in a single season.The 3 buck limit was one of the best things that ever happened in Alabama.I still think the powers that be needs to take a closer look at the doe seasons,and regulate it by zones,there are places that needs does killed,and some that don't.Hunter education is key,and I know you will always have outlaws,so stricter penalties for the ones caught would be a start.
I have shot 2 buck in the last 5 years,with the exception of my long bow kill this year,and 1 doe.I took it upon myself to regulate me,and so could every one else if the would just stick there finger in there pocket ever once in a while.....
I would rather be turkey hunting
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/19/15 04:35 PM
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Wish it were 1 buck tag issued and buy doe permits at $10 per tag. Makes me sick seeing the grown men dragging up the spikes and young fork horns every day at the processor. Maybe you should give up hunting and start playing golf if it bothers you that much. I'm happy for anyone that kills a deer that they are proud of.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: ford150man]
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12/19/15 04:36 PM
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You can really find out what you are dealing with, when you agree to let the state boys come on to your place to do conception studies, as I did. Rule 1 was I get the key to the gates back when they finish. Rule 2 was that they let me know when they are coming back so I can inform the neighbors. I told this when they came the first time and folks in the "gump" need to realize that this is important. Everyone in our vacinity looks after the other landowner. I put the 2 rules in play for a reason. I was wondering what might happen, but knowing that we were willing to go through the process to know what they would come up with and hoping we would get in some February hunting. Well guess what? 1. I still don't have the key back. 2. A neighbor called me the night of their second trip to let me know that there was some shooting on our land. Who knew? And I won't even go into our meeting (3 landowners) with the GW a week or so ago. Un-freaking-believable. Damn, I may write a book. Believe me, changes in the deer season are at the whimsical discretion of the folks in charge. And supervision of the employees to be involved in any change doesn't amount to a hill of beans. I absolutely question the results of any study that goes through the CAB and the DCNR admin. I keep looking for what I deem is a proper attitude in them dealing with the public and have not seen it from these people.
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: ford150man]
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12/19/15 04:38 PM
12/19/15 04:38 PM
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Going to one buck or eliminating doe harvest is only going to create a bunch of outlaws or make it where we lose about 75% of the hunting population in this state.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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12/19/15 04:53 PM
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Going to one buck or eliminating doe harvest is only going to create a bunch of outlaws or make it where we lose about 75% of the hunting population in this state. Its thoughts like that, that are the problem.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: t123winters]
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12/19/15 04:53 PM
12/19/15 04:53 PM
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I like the way it is now,I remember a few years back when we just could not shoot any does,but we could shoot a buck every day of the season...I was part of that slaughter(Lord forgive me) I have killed as many as 23 legal bucks in a single season.The 3 buck limit was one of the best things that ever happened in Alabama.I still think the powers that be needs to take a closer look at the doe seasons,and regulate it by zones,there are places that needs does killed,and some that don't.Hunter education is key,and I know you will always have outlaws,so stricter penalties for the ones caught would be a start.
I have shot 2 buck in the last 5 years,with the exception of my long bow kill this year,and 1 doe.I took it upon myself to regulate me,and so could every one else if the would just stick there finger in there pocket ever once in a while.....  Yet another hillbilly that seems fairly happy with the season and bag limits as they are. And I know you are one of the more sane ones.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/19/15 04:56 PM
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Going to one buck or eliminating doe harvest is only going to create a bunch of outlaws or make it where we lose about 75% of the hunting population in this state. Its thoughts like that, that are the problem. How do you figure? I've discussed it with several people and thats the feed back I get. Not everyone is a trophy hunter.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: 2Dogs]
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12/19/15 04:58 PM
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t123winters
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I like the way it is now,I remember a few years back when we just could not shoot any does,but we could shoot a buck every day of the season...I was part of that slaughter(Lord forgive me) I have killed as many as 23 legal bucks in a single season.The 3 buck limit was one of the best things that ever happened in Alabama.I still think the powers that be needs to take a closer look at the doe seasons,and regulate it by zones,there are places that needs does killed,and some that don't.Hunter education is key,and I know you will always have outlaws,so stricter penalties for the ones caught would be a start.
I have shot 2 buck in the last 5 years,with the exception of my long bow kill this year,and 1 doe.I took it upon myself to regulate me,and so could every one else if the would just stick there finger in there pocket ever once in a while.....  Yet another hillbilly that seems fairly happy with the season and bag limits as they are. And I know you are one of the more sane ones. I about pulled the trigger this morning on a good looking buck,just thought he needed a little more time,very tempting...I have a certain deer in mind over there,and just couldn't flip that safety off.may need to shoot me one of them does though.
I would rather be turkey hunting
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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12/19/15 05:00 PM
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257wbymag
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Going to one buck or eliminating doe harvest is only going to create a bunch of outlaws or make it where we lose about 75% of the hunting population in this state. Its thoughts like that, that are the problem. How do you figure? I've discussed it with several people and thats the feed back I get. Not everyone is a trophy hunter. I'm sure your people agree with you
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Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/19/15 05:02 PM
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Going to one buck or eliminating doe harvest is only going to create a bunch of outlaws or make it where we lose about 75% of the hunting population in this state. Its thoughts like that, that are the problem. How do you figure? I've discussed it with several people and thats the feed back I get. Not everyone is a trophy hunter. I'm sure your people agree with you These aren't "my people" just random people I've struck up conversations with at an outdoors stor or guys I know off of here
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: ford150man]
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12/19/15 05:15 PM
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There are more deer in north east Alabama and the black belt. So lets reflect that in our regs. Divide the state into four common sense zone. Northeast Central Black belt Southern Season length is fine. Tailor the bag limits for each zone to the needs of that zone. Limit doe harvest in the zones where deer numbers have dropped. Adopt minimum buck standards including spread and beam length like Mississippi. Issue tags for all does and bucks. You get caught with a tagless deer, it comes out of your pocket book.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/19/15 05:33 PM
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Wish it were 1 buck tag issued and buy doe permits at $10 per tag. Makes me sick seeing the grown men dragging up the spikes and young fork horns every day at the processor. I would like this just fine!
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: ford150man]
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12/19/15 05:48 PM
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bigt
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I think the three buck limit is sufficient. I don't really see a problem with the season length. My changes would be to have a limited doe season ten to fourteen days and if a landowner thought they needed to take more have a state biologist come out and assess the property and if warranted issue extra doe permits, also strictly enforce the buck limit and lastly continue to conduct studies and make changes to the season end date based on those studies so everyone gets to hunt the rut.
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Re: How would you change deer season?
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12/19/15 06:37 PM
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3 Buck limit but only two with a gun the other would have to be with a bow. Adopt the buck standards that is being used in MS this at least would protect those stupid 1.5 year old bucks. As far as does do it by region with 3 per hunter being the high end and 0 on the low end in places that need the population to grow, and if there are any places that need it sale a certain number of bonus doe tags at $10 a piece..
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: ford150man]
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12/19/15 07:49 PM
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Dang, a bunch of you guys sound like you are anti-deer killing. I know some of you guys are more interested in deer photography/videography (trail cams) and farming for deer, which is fine if that is your thing, but some folk deer hunt to kill deer (and eat them). First, all we heard when it was a buck a day and limited doe days was we were killing too many young bucks and screwing up the herd dynamics. We got unlimited doe days and buck restrictions and were told if you just have to kill something shoot a doe, they eat better. Now we are being told we don't have enough does so don't shoot does, but don't shoot bucks either because we need more mature bucks, I suppose to breed what few does we have left.
I would hope that any changes made would be for the betterment of the herd and not because folks are opposed to hunters not hunting a certain way. Most of the suggestions being made sure sound like the latter.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" - D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: How would you change deer season?
[Re: wmd]
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12/20/15 04:30 AM
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Dang, a bunch of you guys sound like you are anti-deer killing. I know some of you guys are more interested in deer photography/videography (trail cams) and farming for deer, which is fine if that is your thing, but some folk deer hunt to kill deer (and eat them). First, all we heard when it was a buck a day and limited doe days was we were killing too many young bucks and screwing up the herd dynamics. We got unlimited doe days and buck restrictions and were told if you just have to kill something shoot a doe, they eat better. Now we are being told we don't have enough does so don't shoot does, but don't shoot bucks either because we need more mature bucks, I suppose to breed what few does we have left.
I would hope that any changes made would be for the betterment of the herd and not because folks are opposed to hunters not hunting a certain way. Most of the suggestions being made sure sound like the latter. To the contrary I am a Hunter who likes hunting and likes killing deer, but I have also hunted long enough to know at least on my region we are heading in the wrong direction. The reason kids are choosing other things is because the population is so low around here deer hunting is boring to them. I am concerned about the future of hunting for my grandkids. So if I say it would be a good thing to lay off the does it's not that I don't want people to kill deer it's that I wanted there to be a huntable population for people to kill in the future.....
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