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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1569866
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Issue 3 buck tags and bring back doe days

Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1569880
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This is a loaded question. It would take some time to give a well thought out answer.

I'd start by having the entire state restrict buck harvest for a solid year, perhaps two.

Drastic results takes drastic measures.

Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: turkey247] #1569907
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by JW
Leave it like it is.


Wouldn't that be the definition of insanity?


I hunt the same area of the state JW hunts and I tend to agree with him. And no, we're not insane up here in hillbilly land.

Could go back to 2 does a day in some areas maybe, 3 bucks a season is just right. smile



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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: SuperSpike] #1569912
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Originally Posted by SuperSpike
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Wanting answers based on hypotheticals and what ifs doesn't really work. I'd like to see the buck limit removed. As far as the doe killing goes it was preached to do so for so long that people bought into it. I don't think you have to change doe days just let the masses preach number problems the way they have the need for killing does and most will get on board. There is plenty of private land public land, and clubs out there for everyone to find what they are able and wanting to with deer hunting in this state. This can be done without trying to legislate hunting laws so to make others hunt how you want.

I think you missed the question all together. He just wanted opinions. Nobody suggested you change what your doing on your land or to legislate any laws.


I don't think I misunderstood anything. This idea of having bigger bucks and how to do it is mentioned frequently. So shortening seasons wouldn't be regulations? Going down to 2 or even 1 buck per year wouldn't be regulations? Both of which would clearly affect what I could do on my own land.

Most of these questions would be better worded something like what laws can be changed to force hunters to hunt in a way that promotes the idea and way I want to hunt. Because that's what these kind of discussions are clearly about. They're never about personal decisions one can make on his own land or lease they're always about what laws can be changed to affect all.

Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: 257wbymag] #1569919
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Wish it were 1 buck tag issued and buy doe permits at $10 per tag. Makes me sick seeing the grown men dragging up the spikes and young fork horns every day at the processor.


lol I know some grown men that drag in more than one grown buck a year. I say leave it like it is.


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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1569923
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Oct 15 - Jan 31, legal weapon(s) of hunter's choice. Not sure on the buck limits but wouldn't decrease them. Go back to two does a day in areas that can support it.


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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ridgestalker] #1569927
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Wish it were 1 buck tag issued and buy doe permits at $10 per tag. Makes me sick seeing the grown men dragging up the spikes and young fork horns every day at the processor.


lol I know some grown men that drag in more than one grown buck a year. I say leave it like it is.


thumbup and they aren't the type of folks that want to pay to shoot a doe either.



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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ridgestalker] #1569938
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Wish it were 1 buck tag issued and buy doe permits at $10 per tag. Makes me sick seeing the grown men dragging up the spikes and young fork horns every day at the processor.


lol I know some grown men that drag in more than one grown buck a year. I say leave it like it is.


You're in the minority of the group I was referring to. You know that.


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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: perchjerker] #1569944
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
I'd leave it three bucks, 3 does, you can buy two more doe tags.
Cut gun days way back. Go to strict buck tags.The deer population
would increase quick.


I like this idea. And for those that say there is no enforcement for the tags, you think every deer in the midwest where tags are required are seen or even tagged? Always going to have outlaws no matter what. The honest person thta cares about taking care of the resource will do the right thing.

No enforcement now, and who on here is following the harvest law? I would assume the majority

Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: wmd] #1569948
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Originally Posted by wmd
Oct 15 - Jan 31, legal weapon(s) of hunter's choice. Not sure on the buck limits but wouldn't decrease them. Go back to two does a day in areas that can support it.


I was just going to post the same thing!! laugh


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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: gobbler] #1569952
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Originally Posted by gobbler
Originally Posted by wmd
Oct 15 - Jan 31, legal weapon(s) of hunter's choice. Not sure on the buck limits but wouldn't decrease them. Go back to two does a day in areas that can support it.


I was just going to post the same thing!! laugh


That won't fly around here. Allowing people the freedom to make their own decisions and hunt the way they like is very unpopular smile

Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1569965
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No it's the proven fact that many in AL won't or can't make good smart decisions about killing anything. Whether it's greed or what I don't know. Go up to Illinois and hang with some hunters up there. They make good decisions.


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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: gobbler] #1570001
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Originally Posted by gobbler
Originally Posted by wmd
Oct 15 - Jan 31, legal weapon(s) of hunter's choice. Not sure on the buck limits but wouldn't decrease them. Go back to two does a day in areas that can support it.


I was just going to post the same thing!! laugh


Yep. I'm on the same page. What a buncha crybabies!!!!


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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1570009
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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: 257wbymag] #1570029
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
No it's the proven fact that many in AL won't or can't make good smart decisions about killing anything. Whether it's greed or what I don't know. Go up to Illinois and hang with some hunters up there. They make good decisions.


It doesn't matter if it's Alabama or Florida, or anywhere else for that matter. Had a neighbor come to my house this afternoon with a 35 lb. button buck in the back of his Gator wanting to give it to me. He said they were going to the movies and didn't have time to fool with it. I was blown away. Evidently I was the third in line to get asked. Makes me wonder if I wouldn't have been here where that deer would have ended up. I took the deer, gutted it and dropped it off at the processor. First time I've ever been pissed off to be given venison, lol.

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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
No it's the proven fact that many in AL won't or can't make good smart decisions about killing anything. Whether it's greed or what I don't know. Go up to Illinois and hang with some hunters up there. They make good decisions.


Then they can destroy the deer hunting on the lands they hunt. I know it's hard for some of yall to fathom but I know places that don't want deer on their property or at least VERY few. They are considered a pest and compete for other objectives. That should be their prerogative if we truly live in a free society. However, I would not want to deer hunt next door! Not everything is DEER. Some people don't like them!

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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1570062
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Haven't read the other posts, so here goes.

Money--We have to come up with something to keep the
GW's and biologists. Tags, license fee increase, something.

We have to make sure the license buyers are at least somewhat satisfied within bounds the Biologist can determine and not guess. Hunting the full rut is a goshdarn necessity.

Tags--Aboslutely. No other way to do things.

Limits--Thats anybody's guess. Here, I would like to see it reduced to 2 bucks per person.

Reporting--absolutely mandatory.

CAB-- completely do away with it. They don't know what each individual faces in relation to what, how many, or when, nor do they G.A.S. If they did, each license buyer at least would know the name of the person representing them on the board. Cronyism at it's finest. It's super to read about who these guys have an appointment to speak to. The CAB should be speaking to the hunters and fishermen. He!! with the uppidy organizations. This segment of our system is the worst of all.

All of this ties into changes in the deer season, as well as I can see right now. It won't change by daylight.


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Originally Posted by gobbler
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
No it's the proven fact that many in AL won't or can't make good smart decisions about killing anything. Whether it's greed or what I don't know. Go up to Illinois and hang with some hunters up there. They make good decisions.


Then they can destroy the deer hunting on the lands they hunt. I know it's hard for some of yall to fathom but I know places that don't want deer on their property or at least VERY few. They are considered a pest and compete for other objectives. That should be their prerogative if we truly live in a free society. However, I would not want to deer hunt next door! Not everything is DEER. Some people don't like them!


I wish I could find these people, cause I could sure lend them a hand. Free of charge too. grin

A lot of these suggestions sound like Mississippi's current regs except for the tagging part

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Originally Posted by Gotcha1
CAB-- completely do away with it. They don't know what each individual faces in relation to what, how many, or when, nor do they G.A.S. If they did, each license buyer at least would know the name of the person representing them on the board. Cronyism at it's finest. It's super to read about who these guys have an appointment to speak to. The CAB should be speaking to the hunters and fishermen. He!! with the uppidy organizations. This segment of our system is the worst of all.



Who would you hand over the lawmaking to - the Legislature or the Conservation Commissioner (an appointed position and quite transitory)?

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Re: How would you change deer season? [Re: ford150man] #1570075
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Gobbler, what do you think of it now?
Biologists are the one to handle the "regulations", not law. And by got, they don't have to think that the world is coming to an end if the small game hunters don't get a full month.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME----


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