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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: talltines1] #1559941
12/13/15 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by talltines1
Thats ,all I was trying to get across is about the killing of does,the guy that killed over his limit,should be,turned in.and no I dont hunt all over the state,I aint even in a hunting club.but I do hunt 800 acres,all by myself.about 3 years ago I coulld take a shotgun and buckshot,and go throgh rocks in thick cover and kill as many deer as I wanted to.now you can walk allday sometimes and not even see a deer.all everyone talks about is how low turkey populations are,you better worry about deer the same way.the buck limit of 3 is fine with me,because if I aint gonna mount it I aint gonna shoot it.I just would rather raise the buck limit up to 5 ,like turkey hunting and do away with shooting does.when your turkey hunting you dont shoot hens ,same should go for deer .I understand some land has alot more deer than others, but I can bet you thats because of the money feeding corn agriculture crops excta.but like said every land is not the same for instance you say we have alot of deer on your land,well mine is opposite I am run over with Turkey,s go figure .


If I could only shoot bucks I would have only killed 1 deer in the last 3 years and would have gotten discouraged enough to give up hunting. I hunt for meat first, the trophy second. I dont have access to large tracts of land that I can make food plots and create favorable habitat.

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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559949
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I would dare say that a good bit of hunters take more than 3 bucks. I shot three a few years ago and still have some of the meat. I really don't need three myself but some may so take a few does. There are people who will always just kill them to kill them. I don't think more or tighter regs will help anything. In the end it is left to the individual hunter to use their own judgment for their specific area. It all starts with you the hunter.


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1559950
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Originally Posted by MarksOutdoors
Originally Posted by talltines1
Thats ,all I was trying to get across is about the killing of does,the guy that killed over his limit,should be,turned in.and no I dont hunt all over the state,I aint even in a hunting club.but I do hunt 800 acres,all by myself.about 3 years ago I coulld take a shotgun and buckshot,and go throgh rocks in thick cover and kill as many deer as I wanted to.now you can walk allday sometimes and not even see a deer.all everyone talks about is how low turkey populations are,you better worry about deer the same way.the buck limit of 3 is fine with me,because if I aint gonna mount it I aint gonna shoot it.I just would rather raise the buck limit up to 5 ,like turkey hunting and do away with shooting does.when your turkey hunting you dont shoot hens ,same should go for deer .I understand some land has alot more deer than others, but I can bet you thats because of the money feeding corn agriculture crops excta.but like said every land is not the same for instance you say we have alot of deer on your land,well mine is opposite I am run over with Turkey,s go figure .


If I could only shoot bucks I would have only killed 1 deer in the last 3 years and would have gotten discouraged enough to give up hunting. I hunt for meat first, the trophy second. I dont have access to large tracts of land that I can make food plots and create favorable habitat.


X2 I've killed a few bucks in the last couple of years but if I couldn't shoot does anymore I'd just give it up. I deer hunt because I enjoy it and we don't buy beer we eat deer meat year round.


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559962
12/13/15 04:20 AM
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The guys that shoot for meat are the ones effected, I wonder what the #s are on people who shoot for meat, and who hunt for trophys .. . I'd give all mine away to the guys who needed and pay to have it processed, to improve the hunting.. Not really but I'm just saying , you can't tell me the people on this site don't have the brains to solve this issue or atkeast put together something that will work .. I talked to the hunters next to me and they told me they witnessed 3 coyotes chasing a mature fat doe.

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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: RonBuck] #1559965
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Originally Posted by RonBuck
The guys that shoot for meat are the ones effected, I wonder what the #s are on people who shoot for meat, and who hunt for trophys .. . I'd give all mine away to the guys who needed and pay to have it processed, to improve the hunting.. I'm just saying , you can't tell me the people on this site don't have the brains to solve this issue or atkeast put together something that will work .. I talked to the hunters next to me and they told me they witnessed 3 coyotes chasing a mature fat doe.


I bet it's a 100-1


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559972
12/13/15 04:26 AM
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If that's the case Then start with the coyotes and sell some doe tags to pay for it ?

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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: Possum Hunter] #1559973
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Originally Posted by Possum Hunter
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
As far as the 3 buck rule I like it but if I owned the land I'm hunting on the state shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do. I shoukd be able to kill 20 bucks over a corn pile if I want to.


X2



The only problem with that is that it affects everybody else. Although you may own the land, the resource(deer) belong to the public.


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: bowtarist] #1559976
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Originally Posted by bowtarist
I'd just mind my own business. Would you want someone turning you in for every little thing you did?



You're joking, right?


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: N2TRKYS] #1559978
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Originally Posted by N2TRKYS
Originally Posted by Possum Hunter
Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
As far as the 3 buck rule I like it but if I owned the land I'm hunting on the state shouldn't be able to tell me what I can and can't do. I shoukd be able to kill 20 bucks over a corn pile if I want to.


X2



The only problem with that is that it affects everybody else. Although you may own the land, the resource(deer) belong to the public.


I agree with this as well , your to far to the right on this. I'm a moderate republican this is not the stone age anymore . I understand doing what I please with my land , but this is deer hunting what kind of value do you place on that ?

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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559986
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This is just me on my two tracts of land but I would rather someone shoot a young buck than a doe if they need the meat.


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: timbercruiser] #1559989
12/13/15 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
There is no way the biologist can make suggestions for two zones that fit the entire state's deer herd. You have to use common sense in herd management in your area.


Agree with this 100%. People say they don't want the state telling them what they can and can't do but we have to have at least a general guideline. Although one doe a day may seem a bit excessive in some areas it is just a general guideline. I feel like with it being so broad it allows each club or landowner to set their specific harvest regulations as they see fit. I think in general the 3 buck limit is a good rule; again they could have gone to 1 but they didn't . This allows us a little freedom to regulate ourself within those general guidelines. Many of the states that a lot of you guys want to go hunt only allow one buck or one buck per weapon so I think 3 is fair.
As far as the op goes; some people aren't going to follow rules no matter what they are. It's just like any other situation when you know rules are broken. It's a moral dilemma that you will have to decide.

Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559991
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The so called meat hunters that have moved in around my 96 acres have absolutely destroyed some good hunting to the point now that I have become a conservationist on that tractor and not a Hunter. I am hoping that by having them plenty of food and no pressure I might actually be able to save the two does and their fawns.....


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: Hogwild] #1559994
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Originally Posted by Hogwild
Originally Posted by perchjerker
3 bucks is enough, all the crying over does is silly. Talk to processors, there has been no change. If I start shooting at you, you will change your habits too. You people have no faith in the biologist that make their living caring for the state deer population.


Enough?
Who is the judge of that?

I am amazed at the folks who proclaim to be Conservatives that make such Liberal proclamations....let's spread the wealth. It is not fair that you have better hunting property than I do. So, you can only kill 3 bucks so maybe I can kill 3, too. The limit was to allow more bucks to reach older age classes. Not guarantee other hunters a chance to kill bucks.

And, as far as the rest, you are FOS. You have NO idea what you are talking about and should just stick with the little circle jerk on the General Forum. You have not visited every property in AL (maybe none in quite some time?( to make your assumption nor have you talked to every biologist. I can assure you that there are MANY biologists who will tell you that the deer population is in a dangerous spiral in many areas and that the antlerless harvest needs to be limited. And, as far as processors...they have closed almost as fast as they were once opening due to lack of volume here in my area. So, again, you are just flat wrong.

Now, as far as the guy killing over the limit. That is against the Regulation (not Law, Regulation). So, it is wrong, plain and simple. There is no other justification.


most big buck states have a one buck limit and a short gun season

Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559996
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Usually where there's smoke, there's fire. BUT.... I've got two examples of folks jumping to conclusions based on internet crap.

Year before last I had killed two bucks early. I mostly hunt a military base, and even though I'm not "friends" with everybody there, most of us know each other and run in similar circles. I changed my Facebook profile picture to an old photo of me and a big buck I killed several years ago. Apparently someone saw it and turned me in to the game warden on base...they saw me still hunting out there and thus alerted the game warden that "I was already at my limit". Since we were harvesting no does that season, then obviously I was still buck hunting. I had to meet with the game warden who had a sarcastic "gotcha" attitude. Never would tell me any details, only "somebody says you've posted pictures of 3 buck kills on Facebook". The hurtful and embarrassing part is I think she believed I was lying to her. It discolored her perspective of me unfairly.

The first year I was on THIS site, I typo'd the date I killed a buck on two different posts, and all these professional internet detectives accused me of killing 4. Same deal, it felt like everybody thought I was lying.

It's hard to defend yourself against the GOTCHA police nowadays. Everybody just thinks you're lying to cover your tracks.

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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1559999
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There is nothing saying that folks can't go to those States and hunt, either.
No amount of doe killing and buck saving is gonna turn South Alabama into Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, KY, etc.

Why do people feel that they should be able to legally kill over 100 does per year and only 3 bucks?

Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: Hogwild] #1560005
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Originally Posted by Hogwild
There is nothing saying that folks can't go to those States and hunt, either.
No amount of doe killing and buck saving is gonna turn South Alabama into Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, KY, etc.

Why do people feel that they should be able to legally kill over 100 does per year and only 3 bucks?


It's STUPID with a capital S as trunp would say. I hope it's changed .

Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: brd825] #1560007
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I hope they leave it alone.


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: bigt] #1560019
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True to that if you or your freind wants some meat it is way better to shoot a small buck rather than a doe.everyone seems to think every buck is gonna become a stud,thats just not the case.you have some bucks thats gonna stay small.what determines that is which deer bred the doe.for instance you may have a couple of stud bucks on your property ,they breed the does well your just killing potential other studs that doe or does produce.then you may have alot of young bucks ,some may be messed up racks that breed the does,thats the deer you should. Invite a guest who needs meat to shoot.what gets me is alot of people go hunt and see small bucks and does they get frigated and kill the does because they hadnt killed a deer in a while.then most of the time they just cut out the backstaps and maybe a shoulder then throw the rest away,thats just not right.please everybody slack off on the does.

Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: jaredhunts] #1560026
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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
I hope they leave it alone.

They probably will which will mean less Hunter recruitment in the future due to lower Hunter satisfaction and in turn less money from hunting license sales......I guess that's what the State is looking for.


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Re: Shooting more bucks than allowed [Re: jaredhunts] #1560036
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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
I hope they leave it alone.


For the area I hunt, the regulations fit pretty well. No one in my area should have a management need to kill more than 5 does and 3 bucks per season...But, for Hogwild's area, I feel like these regulations don't fit. Nor for Furflyin's area.

Like Randy said, these regulations should be viewed as a guideline. Sure, they're not fitting for every county, but hunters SHOULD be able to have a general idea as to whether or not they're killing too many does. This is the problem with folks! Many hunters nowadays go out and kill whatever they want (even if it's legal) and never think about the effect they're having on the deer herd. Like the saying goes, " Common sense ain't too common nowadays". And this is why we will (and should) ALWAYS have state regulations. I'd hate to see the shape of our deer herd if landowners were responsible for implementing their own regulations.

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