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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: ridgestalker] #1543261
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
The best thing a man can do to increase his odds of killing gooduns in early December to say Christmas in Jackson County is to get your arse out of Paint Rock Valley and head east/northeast as far as you can go without going over into Tennessee or Georgia. All of Jackson County ain't the same.
mad


What he said.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: ridgestalker] #1543307
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
mad
What? I didn't tell tell them the most effective part which is to simply follow ridgestalker around these aforementioned areas. laugh


"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1543309
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Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
mad
What? I didn't tell tell them the most effective part which is to simply follow ridgestalker around these aforementioned areas. laugh

^^^ Truth




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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: JUGHEAD] #1543445
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Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
mad
What? I didn't tell tell them the most effective part which is to simply follow ridgestalker around these aforementioned areas. laugh


What a pal!



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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1543474
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Y'all forgot the preferred method by a lot around here. The ol' trusty spotlight.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1543587
12/01/15 10:53 AM
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I'll add what little I know about it to the subject. I personally have done better outside of the rut. I don't know if its the terrain I hunt or what, but its the fact. I hunt alot like Demp described, on the edge of their bedding areas. Knowing how mature deer use the terrain to navigate their way to and from them is a plus. You've all heard 2dogs and others say pretty woods aint where to find them and its the truth. The places I go, you could barely sling a beagle dog thru or its so steep you risk breaking a leg to get there. I think there's certain mornings when you can almost guarantee a buck will be late getting back to bed. If you know EXACTLY where he's bedding, you can set up on a marginal wind to where he thinks he's safe as he's smelling everything before he gets there. I don't hunt these types of places but 2 maybe 3 times a year because most of the time, I'm having to cross his trail somewhere and double back to where I think he's coming from. If he don't come thru the day I'm in there, I go on to the next place when I go again.

There's a forum alot of you guys may know about but for the ones that don't, here's a link. This man's techniques are totally out of the box and work great for public ground, which is what I hunt 99% of the time. If I hand the luxury of good private land, I'd hunt safe the way most folks do, but I don't. Check the forum out, it may add a trick to your box of magic.

http://www.thehuntingbeast.com/index.php

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: bowtarist] #1543634
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Originally Posted By: bowtarist
I'll add what little I know about it to the subject. I personally have done better outside of the rut. I don't know if its the terrain I hunt or what, but its the fact. I hunt alot like Demp described, on the edge of their bedding areas. Knowing how mature deer use the terrain to navigate their way to and from them is a plus. You've all heard 2dogs and others say pretty woods aint where to find them and its the truth. The places I go, you could barely sling a beagle dog thru or its so steep you risk breaking a leg to get there. I think there's certain mornings when you can almost guarantee a buck will be late getting back to bed. If you know EXACTLY where he's bedding, you can set up on a marginal wind to where he thinks he's safe as he's smelling everything before he gets there. I don't hunt these types of places but 2 maybe 3 times a year because most of the time, I'm having to cross his trail somewhere and double back to where I think he's coming from. If he don't come thru the day I'm in there, I go on to the next place when I go again.





Great post thumbup . This is a great way to kill them when scrapes are hot , but before breeding starts. If you can figure where he beds and where he's likely to come from. Get close to his bed but not on top of it. Get there early, and climb quietly , well before daylight. Good chance you'll get him just after shooting light the first morning. Lots of scrapes are made at night. I've always figured closer breeding gets, he'll be running a little later and later. If I think I know where one beds, I'd rather hunt this way than on top of his scrapes. Hunting scrapes it's very easy to hunt behind a buck, ya gotta be in front of him on scrapes to kill him.



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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1543748
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I'd like to hear some of you seasoned vets tactics on killing them during the rut. I know to hunt the does but what do you look for terrain wise and all?

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1543945
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If you hunt Paint Rock Valley get to your stand early and stay all day. Let all the yahoo's coming in late and then going to get lunch chase the deer to you.


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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: bowtarist] #1544474
12/02/15 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: bowtarist
I'd like to hear some of you seasoned vets tactics on killing them during the rut. I know to hunt the does but what do you look for terrain wise and all?


Yes sir, i would be interested as well. Alot more to it than just finding does. I see doe groups every single time i hunt. Funny how we all talk about the thick woods being the place to be, pre rut...thats also the only place i can catch up to a goodun during the rut.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: bowtarist] #1544476
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Originally Posted By: bowtarist
I'll add what little I know about it to the subject. I personally have done better outside of the rut. I don't know if its the terrain I hunt or what, but its the fact. I hunt alot like Demp described, on the edge of their bedding areas. Knowing how mature deer use the terrain to navigate their way to and from them is a plus. You've all heard 2dogs and others say pretty woods aint where to find them and its the truth. The places I go, you could barely sling a beagle dog thru or its so steep you risk breaking a leg to get there. I think there's certain mornings when you can almost guarantee a buck will be late getting back to bed. If you know EXACTLY where he's bedding, you can set up on a marginal wind to where he thinks he's safe as he's smelling everything before he gets there. I don't hunt these types of places but 2 maybe 3 times a year because most of the time, I'm having to cross his trail somewhere and double back to where I think he's coming from. If he don't come thru the day I'm in there, I go on to the next place when I go again.

There's a forum alot of you guys may know about but for the ones that don't, here's a link. This man's techniques are totally out of the box and work great for public ground, which is what I hunt 99% of the time. If I hand the luxury of good private land, I'd hunt safe the way most folks do, but I don't. Check the forum out, it may add a trick to your box of magic.

http://www.thehuntingbeast.com/index.php


I dig it man...im fixing to check out the link, Thanks.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545341
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Hate to see this one at the bottom. I think we have a good informative thread going.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545365
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Good stuff guys.


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On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545474
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I'm studying it ...




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Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545647
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all this talk about how hard it is to kill a good one before the rut and I get a call today from our neighboring land owner saying he shot a good buck but had lost the blood trail. He's going back tomorrow to look some more.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545717
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I gave him some tracking dog numbers. I told him I'd go help him look after I get off in the morning. When he says it's a good one, it usually is.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: truedouble] #1545825
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
all this talk about how hard it is to kill a good one before the rut and I get a call today from our neighboring land owner saying he shot a good buck but had lost the blood trail. He's going back tomorrow to look some more.


Chip? Dang, I hope he finds it. CD.

Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: truedouble] #1545917
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
all this talk about how hard it is to kill a good one before the rut and I get a call today from our neighboring land owner saying he shot a good buck but had lost the blood trail. He's going back tomorrow to look some more.


Call in Meg


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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545923
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Yep, Chip. Tom said it was too far to travel. Blood was bright red, so good chance it's a dead deer. I had a number of another guy by the name of Isaac. Not sure where I got the number but it was stored in my phone. Any one know who this is. It's a 256 number.

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Re: ? for 2dogs, foldemup, CD, demp17 and the like... [Re: booth2] #1545929
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We need more dogs in this state....Tom just can't cover all of NE Bama by himself.


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