Have a friend looking to switch to 7mm-08. He just emailed me this link. Looks like a good deal, but will take the scope off and mount a Ziess to it. Haven't had much experience with this model but have heard good things about Ruger rifles in general. Opinions and is it a good price? Thanks!

I like the American. I put a little comparison of the M77 vs American on the Guns and Gear section that has received some comments.

I like mine no issues or complaints. We have the tiger Americans in 308 and 270.

Call me crazy but putting a Zeiss scope on an American just seems rather insane.

Why? That Zeiss won't hurt the value of that rifle at all. Buy the best glass you can afford regardless of what you're gun shooting.

He's was given a Remington 710 as a present a long time ago. Couple of years ago, the scope crapped out and a good buddy sold him a Zeiss Conquest 3-12x56 for $400. I've shot his rifle, and it sucks. Groups ok, but fit and finish is sub par. Follow up shots are almost impossible due to sticky bolt. Just not a good rifle. He's looking to spend around $400 for a used or new rifle in 7mm08. For $399, he was considering it. I'm trying to talk him into the Steyr on sale for $699

Just read it, thanks!

He might be able to work a deal at second season and trade that remington 710 in on a steyr. He would be a little over budget but not much maybe an extra 100-150

Just one thing to keep in mind 7mm08 ammo has been next to impossible to find in a store around here

Buy the American. He can sell that scope for 100 bucks easily.

He won't find a more accurate rifle for the money.

I bought the American Compact in 7mm-08 for my 9 & 12 year old daughters. It's certainly not a 700 action, but much smoother than some of the other rifles in its price range. I put a $180 Nikon on it, and it's producing 1" groups with Hornady American Whitetail ammo. Youngest daughter shot a 210 lb 8 point Saturday afternoon; he made it all of 30 yards.

When I get the chance to rifle hunt by myself, I'll probably take the American and leave the 7mag in the safe.

I've seen ammo at several places in Tuscaloosa lately.

Not a problem. Buddy in the hunting group shoots 7mm08 and reloads. Using 140 gr accubond and it's been deadly out his rifle and my .280 rem

Btw, where is second season?

I just bought a like new .308 american compact yesterday for $300. Guy bought it then decided it was to short for him. I think with a jacket on it will be perfect. 18" barrel and only 6lbs. Going to sight it in after lunch and ill report back. Its a cheap rifle but trigger is fantastic on mine and bolt is slick.

The ammo situation and some sparse blood trails are why I went to .243. May not help with the blood trail but the ammo is everywhere and it's usually about $10 a box cheaper than 7-08. But a downside is that I wouldn't hesitate to take the 7-08 elk hunting and I wouldn't do that with .243. If I get serious about going on elk trip I'll probably buy an 06 or 270. And my American wears a Zeiss and I like it.

You were getting a bad blood trail from a 7mm-08, so you went to a smaller, lighter, less powerful round?

I just bought the exact same setup the other day for my boy . I really like it it's a sweet shooting little rifle and perfect for long walks .

My thinking also...I would be trying different bullets not the opposite.

I shot several different bullets. It was ammo availability as much as anything. I'm just saying there can be a blood trail issue with 7-08. I found almost everything I shot with it but sometimes it was walking the way deer ran and coming across body. I'd say probably 30-40 percent of time. Those Winchester black bullets with gray tips were a great killing bullet.

I've never understood this line of thinking. So do all 7mm bullets have this issue? Once the bullet leaves the barrel the case it came from has absolutely 0 effect. So does a 7mm Rem mag have the same issue? How's about a 7STW? 7x57? 280 Rem? 7WSM? Of course not. So to say that 7'08s don't leave a blood trail is ludicrous.

I just know the experience I had. Never shot any other 7mm calibers. Did some reading on Internet that others have seen same thing. I'm certainly no expert on it but I had to find several deer by body searching. I enjoyed the caliber.