Yes if it is the same bullet my son killed a good 8 point last week during youth hunt it was right at last light he pulled the trigger the deer dropped like a ton of bricks.then the deer got up soon as it fell and hoped back in a pine thicket.feeling good about what I saw being him only 10, we went home got some lights went back to search.but couldnt find no blood or hair nothing .we found were he fell but no blood, the grass was wet with due I told him the deer may have tryed to turn to run and slipped on the wet grass. So dissapointed we left.we went back the next day with my bloodhound,still couldnt find a speck of blood. My dog ran to the spot, and went the way the deer left.but she dint bark and came back, my hopes were slim,on last effort we walked the way my dog first went the deer was not 20 yards from were he shot him at . Looking at the deer couldnt see no blood on it my son said he must have had a heart attatck but when we lifted him up to the truck blood poured out the shoulderon the opposite side.the bullets are gold with a dark grey tip and 150 grains said on the box expandable point.