Originally Posted by yotetrapper

Originally Posted by mman
Originally Posted by yotetrapper

Originally Posted by mman
"Don't push the limits"? The law is the law, right? If the speed limit is 55, then it is alright to go 55. How would you feel a policeman gave out tickets for going the speed limit based on his perception that you were pushing the limits.

I'm a black and white kind of guy. I don't like perceived gray areas.

220-2-.157 Definition of Area Regulation
For the purposes of Section 9-11-244, Code of Alabama 1975, and Rule 220-2-.11, Alabama Administrative Code, as it applies to the hunting of deer and feral swine, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed (as defined in Section 9-11-244) located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is not a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine. For the purpose of this regulation, “not within the line of sight” means being hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally occurring terrain features. This regulation shall not apply on public lands.

Note, it says bait or feed. Doesn't matter if supplemental feeding or bait. If it's more than 100 yards away and out of sight, then it is legal according to the way the law is written.

Again, it plainly says the bait has to be out of the line of sight, not the deer.

How is this regulation not clear??? Seems clear to me. It says nothing about an additional 50 yards. That's like saying the speed limit is 55 but you can only go 45 or I will give you a ticket.


Pushing the limits of a speed limit is different. Going 57 or 60 is pushing the limit...how many people get tickets going 56 or 57 in a 55??


No, you are wrong. Going 56 breaks the law. It is exceeding the law. When you stay within the law, it is not pushing the limits. If you are going 56 to 60 then you are pushing the limits of getting a ticket for BREAKING the law. 100 yards and out of sight, that is within the limits of the law. 99 yards and you are breaking the law. 99 yards and you are pushing the limits for getting a ticket.

Why would a GW give a ticket to someone within the bounds of the law? Because they can, I guess. The law is clear.

I think I see the problem here...


I disagree, but speed limits are a poor analogy to use in this instance to begin with.
You are looking at a regulation that can be rebutted(rebuttable presumption) if you are still hunting by the aid of bait. Example. Bait is 101yards way behind a single tree, you can still kill the deer feeding on the bait. Therefore you ARE hunting by the aid of bait. The LAW is that you cannot hunt by the aid of bait 9-11-244. Once again the closer you get to the flame/push the limit the more likely you'll get burned.


Rebuttable presumptions means that is taken to be true unless someone comes forward to contest it and PROVE otherwise.

Notice, it doesn't mean think, it means PROVE.

As far as 9-11-244, it has been clarified and defined so "that any bait or feed (as defined in Section 9-11-244 (which included shelled corn)) located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter, is NOT a lure, attraction or enticement to, on or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine..."

If shelled corn is defined as not being a lure if it is past 100 yards and out of sight, then why would a GW write a ticket??? Because that is not what they want the law to say, I guess???